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Re:I Bought A Firetruck by sliverstorm on Sunday March 24, 2013 @05:23PM (#5433712)
There's no complicated fascination. It is simple. People like big cars because they are spacious, feel safer, provide a higher vantage point, and a host of other reasons.

Your hatchback is perfectly fine around town, but it can't tow a boat, and most people don't like to have multiple cars.

So, what winds up happening is people buy the most car they think they will need. It's totally overkill driving to work, and plenty of people never actually tow that boat, but this is why it happens.

Europeans would do the exact same thing, I figure, if they lived in an economic climate with similar gas prices and car taxes and such. With the possible exception of people living in old cities whose roads are just too small.

Re:I Bought A Firetruck by byroot on Sunday March 24, 2013 @05:44PM (#5433838)
> With the possible exception of people living in old cities whose roads are just too small.

It's more the rule than the exception. European car makers have a specific car category named "City cars", big enough to host 4 to 5 people but as small as possible to be easy to park etc.

Driving, and worse parking, an american sized SUV in europe is very painful. This is why he don't understand.

American cities are modern and built for cars, most big european cities have been built for walkers and horses, so now we got a tons of oneway streets and a general lack of space to park cars.

Re:I Bought A Firetruck by zanny on Sunday March 24, 2013 @08:21PM (#5434524)
It kind of depends where you live in the US. I live in a rural PA town where they have built highways over dirt roads and the main state route into town is a two lane country street that carries 18 wheelers every hour of the day and has a never ending backup.

Parking on main street, for example, is nigh impossible. Parts of it aren't wide enough for many cars to go past one another while the streetside parking is in use (and it always is, the town has no parking since... who needed parking in 1800?). And then there is a big state university in town, so you end up getting delivery trucks to the campus all the time and some drivers don't have the experience to know not to try taking an 18 wheeler down main street.

Re:I Bought A Firetruck by LancerSykera on Monday March 25, 2013 @02:59AM (#5435818)
Okay, I give up. It's either Kutztown or Lock Haven. I've been to Lock Haven, it's not an amusing place to navigate (especially the campus).
Re:I Bought A Firetruck by pc86 on Monday March 25, 2013 @11:57AM (#5437696)
I've only ever been to Kutztown and didn't think it was too bad (granted, I was in a mid-size sedan and not an Escalade), so my money's on Lock Haven.
Re:I Bought A Firetruck by Swizec on Sunday March 24, 2013 @06:16PM (#5434024)
> Driving, and worse parking, an american sized SUV in europe is very painful.

This is a very important distinction! What a European considers a huge SUV is a small town car in the US. At least judging from what I've seen on my visits.

Some of those cars are just uncomfortably big.

Re:I Bought A Firetruck by chaz on Sunday March 24, 2013 @06:13PM (#5434006)
Combine that with a fairly sophisticated highway system that runs everywhere around the country, a post-war boom in car and suburban home ownership, and low cost of fuel, and it becomes imbued within the culture as the norm.
Re:I Bought A Firetruck by justincormack on Sunday March 24, 2013 @06:10PM (#5433984)
Or the smaller ones for 2 people...
Re:I Bought A Firetruck by Swizec on Sunday March 24, 2013 @06:13PM (#5434007)
"but it can't tow a boat"

It probably could and where the hell would I even put a boat. Silly americans :D

Re:I Bought A Firetruck by sliverstorm on Sunday March 24, 2013 @07:24PM (#5434318)
Depends on the boat. I want to buy a 13ft one-man sailboat that weights 130lbs. Any car can tow that. Some people have boats that weight two tons. Good luck towing that in a Fiat 500.
Re:I Bought A Firetruck by venus on Sunday March 24, 2013 @09:53PM (#5434860)
Well, when you win the lottery and are able to actually buy that boat, perhaps you can budget in the cost of a car to pull it?

This "aspirational" angle to buying big cars actually explains a lot, like a fat kid drinking Gatorade or out of shape guys wearing tracksuits to the mall, "just in case". After all, if you're driving a big car, no-one will be able to definitively say you don't own a boat..

Re:I Bought A Firetruck by sliverstorm on Sunday March 24, 2013 @10:50PM (#5435064)
Yup, it's even a common marketing angle. Ever heard of greenwashing? SUV marketing often depicts a vehicle being driven offroad and/or through rough conditions, when 99% of their buyers will never use the car like that. They are playing on buyer's desire to cultivate a certain image.
Re:I Bought A Firetruck by Retric on Sunday March 24, 2013 @07:27PM (#5434327)
You might be surprised. 50 years ago it was a major issue, but now engines are powerful and small so all you need is a tow hitch and a small boat. EX: Toyota Corolla can tow 1500 lbs which is a fair sized load.

Granted if, you want to pull a 22' boat that's another story. But, for lake fishing it's fine.

Re:I Bought A Firetruck by matwood on Sunday March 24, 2013 @08:24PM (#5434532)
Toyota Corolla can tow 1500 lbs which is a fair sized load.

While the engine can handle it, that's generally not the issue with towing anymore. Like you said, todays engines are powerful. It's the rest of the car that needs to be beefed up for towing. Particularly the transmission and breaks.

My 4-runner had plenty of power to tow my boat, but over time the wear and tear on the rest of the vehicle would destroy a perfectly good car. I now have a Tundra that is build to pull the load. FYI, my boat ready to fish plus trailer is ~7k pounds.

To the original poster wondering why people want such big cars. Personally I would love a smaller car, but I enjoy my boat more :)

Re:I Bought A Firetruck by sliverstorm on Sunday March 24, 2013 @07:39PM (#5434374)
First, plenty of boats weight more than 1500lbs, especially if you include the trailer. Trailers always weight more than you think. For example, U-Haul's smallest utility trailer is 630lbs.

Second, there are more issues than power. Towing 1500lbs behind a Corolla puts a lot of strain on the car that it wasn't particularly meant to handle on anything other than an occasional basis, especially with things like automatic transmissions. Also very important, a Corolla is 2700lbs. 1500lbs of trailer starts to get sketchy, and the trailer can start yanking around the tow vehicle.

Edit: yes, you are right, lake fishing in a rowboat, you don't need a dedicated tow vehicle. Thing is, people dream they will get that 22' boat in a few years, so they buy the F-650 or whatever.

Re:I Bought A Firetruck by Retric on Sunday March 24, 2013 @07:52PM (#5434430)
U-Haul's designing that to last though a beating and carry cargo for a boat you can go as low as a 125 lbs for the trailer. As a SUT-200-S will handle a 200LB boat and it's shipping wieght is 125 lb. http://www.clcboats.com/shop/products/boat-gear/boat-transpo...

Anyway, sure there are limits, but a nice 14 foot boat at 1,000lb plus 500lb for the trailer is still a decent boat IMO.