Re:Adria Richards, PyCon, and How We All Lost
by incongruity on Thursday March 21, 2013 @06:56PM
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FWIW, PyCon and the PSF have really tried over the last five years or so to consider gender issues and I think they've had a good start – I believe I heard PyCon had women accounting for around 20% (edit: corrected thanks) of total attendance. That's pretty cool considering how much lower the numbers were a decade ago.
Re:Adria Richards, PyCon, and How We All Lost
by incongruity on Thursday March 21, 2013 @07:21PM
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thanks for the correction. fixed to reflect your more accurate numbers/not my clearly horked brain's recollection.
Re:Adria Richards, PyCon, and How We All Lost
by super_mario on Friday March 22, 2013 @08:35AM
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I don't think people understand what "sexist" means. There is no prejudice or discrimination based on gender here. Sexist joke would be someone making a joke implying women were inferior programers or belong in the kitchen not at the computer etc. Saying you would like to fuck the hot blonde sitting in front of you is not sexist (just obscene). What the guys at the PyCon said is so out of category of sexist that it's ridiculous.
Besides the larger issue here is should freedom of speech (in the public sphere) include the freedom to offend. One could make a compelling argument that it should.
Re:Adria Richards, PyCon, and How We All Lost
by MartinCron on Thursday March 21, 2013 @07:36PM
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I haven't seen the industry introspect on gender issues in a long time
I value industry introspection as much as the next person, but these last 24 hours have been actively painful to me.
Re:Adria Richards, PyCon, and How We All Lost
by niggler on Thursday March 21, 2013 @07:46PM
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"these last 24 hours have been actively painful to me."
That's a sign you are doing it right
Re:Adria Richards, PyCon, and How We All Lost
by golden_apples on Thursday March 21, 2013 @10:09PM
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I don't know if i'm missing something, but I've seen very little introspection in the responses to the situation. The guy who was called out's apology notwithstanding, out seems like there's just been a mass venting of anti-feminist attitudes all around.
Re:Adria Richards, PyCon, and How We All Lost
by mogrim on Friday March 22, 2013 @04:35AM
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I've seen a lot of posts reflecting on the situation, including of course this page on reddit. Certainly it hasn't just been a "mass venting of anti-feminist attitudes", although that's certainly been present too.
Exactly. Which is why I'm happy this is playing out now, because I haven't seen the industry introspect on gender issues in a long time.