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Re:Diamonds Are Bullshit by taejo on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @04:29AM (#5406148)
> but eventually had to settle for a natural one which wasn't sourced from Africa

Because Africa is all one big war zone. Because any money sent to Africa funds violence.

Seriously? Why is it so much better to buy from Russia than South Africa or Botswana? (the money's all going to De Beers -- which was originally a South African company -- or a similar multinational anyway).

The top four diamond-producing countries in Africa (the top two are actually not African: Russia and Canada) are Botswana, Angola, South Africa and Namibia. All of these countries are poor, sure. They all have some political problems, sure. But they are all democracies with somewhat functional governments; none of them are at war (the Angolan civil war ended in 2002).

Multinational mineral companies aren't always the best thing for locals, but the idea that the only money sent to Africa should arrive on a UN food truck is far worse.

Re:Diamonds Are Bullshit by mullingitover on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @01:42PM (#5408865)
The problem with buying diamonds from anywhere is that you're giving conflict diamonds added value through the simple fact of your demand for them. They're a fungible commodity. Essentially there is no diamond that is not a blood diamond.
Re:Diamonds Are Bullshit by taejo on Friday March 22, 2013 @09:22AM (#5422704)
Absolutely. Buying Canadian/Russian/Indian diamonds doesn't help.

Hmm, actually, they aren't perfectly fungible. 100 one-carat diamonds aren't worth the same as one 100-carat diamond, and even diamonds of the same weight aren't substitutable. But with respect to country of origin, yeah.

Re:Diamonds Are Bullshit by slavak on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @06:21AM (#5406392)
No, but it's impossible for me to know where in Africa the diamond is coming from, which means it's impossible to know whether or not it's a conflict diamond. I know that diamond miners in Russia or India have decent working conditions and that there's no chance of the proceeds going to fund a bloody civil war; I have no such confidence when the most specific answer the jeweler can give me regarding the stone's origins is "Africa."
Re:Diamonds Are Bullshit by taejo on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @09:08AM (#5406960)
Is it really true (I'm not doubtful, just shocked) that the jeweller can tell you what country the diamond came from unless that country is in a particular continent?
Re:Diamonds Are Bullshit by danudey on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @05:00PM (#5410281)
Because of the 'blood diamond' controversy, the diamonds get mixed up together, sold around, exported, smuggled, etc. There's no way to track them.

Canadian ice diamonds, on the other hand, are all laser-engraved with a serial number, making it possible to verify each diamond's authenticity and source. According to the jeweller I spoke to, the only guarantee she could make is 'Canadian' or 'not Canadian'; she couldn't even guarantee me African, Russian, etc.

She did, of course, offer to sell me a ring with 'who knows' diamonds and then remove them and put Canadian diamonds in, but at that point I'm paying for 'who knows' and Canadian diamonds, which seemed a little idiotic.

Re:Diamonds Are Bullshit by sp332 on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @10:12AM (#5407327)
Countries in Africa are smaller than Russia or India. Borders are crossed much more easily.