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Re:“The AT&T Hacker” Sentenced To 41 Months In Prison by rayiner on Monday March 18, 2013 @10:33PM (#5398564)
Change "100" to "tens of thousands" and "posts them on his blog" "suggests to someone else that he was going to sell them for profit" and you've got a damn good analogy.
Re:“The AT&T Hacker” Sentenced To 41 Months In Prison by lifeisstillgood on Tuesday March 19, 2013 @01:42AM (#5399174)
And why are either of those crimes?
Re:“The AT&T Hacker” Sentenced To 41 Months In Prison by rayiner on Tuesday March 19, 2013 @12:20PM (#5401795)
Because it's not okay to access data you know you shouldn't look at and threaten to sell that data to parties that would use it to harm others. The fact that nothing is stopping you from doing so does not make it okay.

The world is full of sensitive information that's basically protected on the honor system, for the same reason the world is full of unlocked doors: because we assume some assholes won't come around and abuse the situation.

Re:“The AT&T Hacker” Sentenced To 41 Months In Prison by lifeisstillgood on Tuesday March 19, 2013 @01:38PM (#5402362)
In this case? Really?

AT&T had a duty of care to protect their Data which they signally failed to do. Then some asshole finds out and makes that situation public. He did not do so in a responsible manner but four years is a long time to get for being an asshole.

If that is commonplace HN is going to be a smaller forum

Re:“The AT&T Hacker” Sentenced To 41 Months In Prison by rayiner on Tuesday March 19, 2013 @05:36PM (#5403775)
Let's stop making things up about the facts of the case, shall we? Weev did not get 41 months for being the asshole that made AT&T's blunder public. The worst he could have gotten for the CFAA charge by itself would have been a misdemeanor with a maximum penalty of less than a year (and realistically, probably zero jail time).

Weev was convicted, by a jury, of fraud in connection with personal information. The jury believed he intended to sell the e-mail addresses he collected to people who would use them for various nefarious purposes. Given that he claimed he was going to do so in IRC conversations, it's really hard for you to sit there and argue that the jury was unreasonable in reaching this conclusion, and that all they are really punishing him for is blowing the lid on AT&T.

What you're doing is trying to create a particular narrative about Weev's intentions, but ignoring that the jury in this case heard and rejected this narrative.

Re:“The AT&T Hacker” Sentenced To 41 Months In Prison by lifeisstillgood on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @04:13AM (#5406104)
Really I hate the idea of convicting people for intentions

Whilst I see that there are times and crimes it is viable, it's just a vicious circle.

He intended to commit a crime, but did not? And so he got jail?

I admit I am taking this too far on too little reading of the case (any links to original docs would be useful) but intention is real flimsy.