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Re:Bills seek end to farm animal abuse videos by jiggy2011 on Monday March 18, 2013 @06:45AM (#5393421)
That's an interesting point, animal welfare seems to be a relatively boolean issue. People who care about it go vegetarian/vegan whereas others will mostly go for cheap meat.

I imagine there are not that many people who want to eat meat but are happy to pay much of a premium for better conditions.

So pretty much all the demand for meat is demand for cheap meat rather than "ethical" meat. Maybe if vegetarians started eating meat but did so by creating market demand for meat produced under better conditions this would actually be a net benefit for animal welfare as some high density farming would be converted to lower density?

Re:Bills seek end to farm animal abuse videos by purephase on Monday March 18, 2013 @09:00AM (#5393811)
So, you're suggesting that vegetarians change their own lifestyles so that those with (to use your example) "less" moral quandaries and more fiscal concerns don't have to change theirs?

Seems like an odd way to go about addressing the problem.

Re:Bills seek end to farm animal abuse videos by jiggy2011 on Monday March 18, 2013 @09:19AM (#5393921)
Kind of, if you have gone vegetarian for ethical reasons you have demonstrated willingness to change your behaviour.
Re:Bills seek end to farm animal abuse videos by purephase on Monday March 18, 2013 @07:52PM (#5397956)
There's an odd logic to this that I'm having difficulties refuting. Rationality for a win... ?