Re:On being a girl in computer science - a confession
by im3w1l on Sunday March 10, 2013 @09:43AM
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>African immigrants to America are a high-achieving group, outperforming whites in income. So they manage to beat the stereotypes while African-Americans do not.
Isn't that an argument FOR survivor-ship bias?
How do the ethnic asians that immigrated a century ago stack up against the newly immigrated ones?
Re:On being a girl in computer science - a confession
by newnewnew on Sunday March 10, 2013 @05:37PM
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hmmm, so would you suppose that children of African immigrants (the Obamas of the world) run into the negative stereotypes of our society and start to fall in socioeconomic standing towards the level of African Americans?
They just happen to be really, really good at what they do, on average, to the point where they outperform whites in majority-white nations. And in doing so, they falsify the hypothesis that achievement gaps are caused solely by majority-group racism.
Asians blow whites out of the water on SAT, MCAT, IQ, and other tests of achievement, aptitude, and ability. Even if there was a bias against asian names in the market place, Asians would probably overcome it just by being too good to ignore.
It's really hard for me to square leftist theories of racism with the data. To be successful in America, the best thing you can do is be born to Indian parents[1].
It is interesting that you mention immigrants. African immigrants to America are a high-achieving group, outperforming whites in income. So they manage to beat the stereotypes while African-Americans do not.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_Un...