If they're both similar in this way, why did Flash win, or at least stay alive, while Java lost, to the point where most people can be told to turn it off and won't notice the difference?
Because Flash plays streaming video well and Java doesn't?
Re:Days since last known Java 0-day exploit
by mattmanser on Friday March 08, 2013 @06:25PM
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Only way to watch a video
Re:Days since last known Java 0-day exploit
by solistice on Friday March 08, 2013 @07:29PM
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HTML 5 video?
We are only just now hitting the point where you could use HTML 5 video only for a broad reaching consumer site. Once this is no longer an issue flash will probably drop off a lot more.
I assume only having up to IE8 on XP is going to be an issue to full html5 video adoption for some time yet.
Re:Days since last known Java 0-day exploit
by solistice on Saturday March 09, 2013 @11:12AM
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I just found out from W3S that there's still 19.1% of users using XP. I see where that could become problematic.
I came up with a hypothesis about this kind of stuff not too long ago. Once your product becomes sufficiently crappy, nobody in their right mind will want to work on it. Good people will leave to get away from it. The project gets to a point where the badness "rubs off on you". Anyone who cares about their reputation will run from it.
Obviously, you can't write code without developers, so you start scraping the bottom of the barrel to get anyone who will work on it. You get people who don't care about their reputations and/or quality and are only there for a paycheck. You get green people fresh out of school who think everything is always nice and happy, and haven't been beaten down by the harsh reality of the industry yet.
The bozos got to the project, and broke it. Once that happened, the only people willing to work on it are more bozos (and the unfortunate ignorant folks who don't know any better).
I dubbed it "The Bozo Loop". I originally only intended for this to describe a specific situation (Flash), but since then it's become quite clear that it can extend to Java and many other things.