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Re:Why are payment forms so complicated? by segmondy on Thursday March 07, 2013 @04:59PM (#5340608)
There is no security through obscurity only illusions of it.
Re:Why are payment forms so complicated? by wtracy on Thursday March 07, 2013 @09:25PM (#5341772)
Will people please stop saying that in this context?

Merchant-side fraud prevention schemes are not security. They are heuristics for reducing the number of bad transactions that the vendor has to handle.

Algorithms should be air-tight. Yes, the best way to ensure that they are is to make them public. Heuristics by definition are not airtight. The best way to get utility from them is to keep their nature hidden from parties trying to abuse the system.

Re:Why are payment forms so complicated? by dalore on Thursday March 07, 2013 @07:04PM (#5341273)
It's analysing behaviour for patterns. If you let out what patterns you're looking for then those patterns change.
Re:Why are payment forms so complicated? by sheri on Friday March 08, 2013 @03:37AM (#5342522)
Wouldn't the patterns change after the fraudsters realize they are not working?
Re:Why are payment forms so complicated? by solistice on Friday March 08, 2013 @07:26PM (#5346678)
I'm not saying something like that will hold forever. It might take 2 months to figure out that sites check for that, and 2 weeks (/days) to code it up. If you make the information on your heuristic public, those 2 months just drop out straight.