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Re:Cost of Living by DanielBMarkham on Tuesday September 11, 2007 @11:48AM (#53348)
Living expenses are the reason I'm not applying. Unless you somehow lose intelligence and execution ability when you get married and have kids, the structure doesn't make sense to me. It seems to be geared towards single, foot-loose folks. As somebody who's put long hours in on multiple technology projects, I don't feel that having a higher overhead translates to being a worse risk. After all, what are we talking about here? The difference between 5 and 10K, or something like that? Being hungry is great. Having your wife call you every day to tell you the house is getting repossessed is counter-productive.

I agree that the knowledge and contacts are what you guys should be going for. Running on savings and forgetting about the money is the only strategy I can figure that works for us "high maintenance" entrepreneurs. If I apply, I'll just make sure I have money in savings to run for six months or so first.

Re:Cost of Living by comatose_kid on Tuesday September 11, 2007 @01:13PM (#53409)
If you think risking the delta between what YC offers vs. living expenses for a few months is worth not applying, you might (as a potential founder) want to reconsider your appetite for risk.
Re:Cost of Living by jpalacio486 on Tuesday September 11, 2007 @08:16PM (#53628)
Amen to that.
Re:Cost of Living by DanielBMarkham on Tuesday September 11, 2007 @02:18PM (#53456)
Come on, guys. These replies are just pot shots. Take the snarkiness somewhere else.

I've worked 3-6 month projects where every minute was slinging code. And I regularly put my house and family on the line for my business.

I already have a business. I show companies how to run technology teams. I'm just looking to move into startup country because I like that environment more than the suit and tie world. I've led 5-person startup teams, and I've led 40-person rearchitecture groups. I like the startup teams a lot better.

Re:Cost of Living by sbraford on Tuesday September 11, 2007 @04:15PM (#53505)
There's snarkiness and then there's honest to goodness questions about whether one can afford to get into Y Combinator. (if you can get that far, of course)

I personally would need to save up for a while & pay down some debt before even trying to apply. But I would never knock the idea of cutting ramen-noodle checks to YC founders. It's at the very least much better (for the probably outcome of the business) than cutting filet-mignon checks.

Re:Cost of Living by DanielBMarkham on Wednesday September 12, 2007 @10:00AM (#53844)
Since in my job I have to quote hourly and daily rates to people, I always keep in the back of my mind a rate for "barely living", a rate for "swimming", and a rate for "comfortable living". I'm always aware of the amount of money it takes to pay the mortgage, lights, car payment, etc.

That's the thing about getting married and having kids: it makes your life a lot more complicated. Personally I don't mind living out of an apartment and eating noodles for 3 or 4 months. I could even skip a couple months on the mortgage if I had to. But when they start taking away things your family needs to survive, like a house, then that's not eating steaks, that's starving. While I have no problem gambling my family's assets on my business, I don't feel it is morally right to actually lose everything they have.

Now if it was just me, that's a different story. At one point in my life, due to a fire when I was in my 20s, I lost everything I had. In a way, it's a totally liberating experience. Most people really don't need all that crap they surround themselves with every day.

That's why I replied to the article. I can see both sides of the story. Most young single guys don't need a lot of money (especially with Web applications) to make a go of it. The numbers get bigger with a wife, and they get even bigger with kids. That's not wanting Filet Mignons, that's just life.

Re:Cost of Living by sbraford on Saturday September 15, 2007 @07:35PM (#55070)
While I totally hear you... there's not much YC should do about it.

I've got myself into sticky situations befre re: money, and have had to get out of them myself.

All of the money-managing books & articles I've ever read say that one of the most important decisions you'll ever make re: your financial future is the spouse you get married to.

The right one could be a net positive (moral support, financial support, etc), while the wrong one could lead to disaster in your financial life.

Kids? Now that's a whole different story...!

Re:Cost of Living by jamiequint on Tuesday September 11, 2007 @01:48PM (#53434)
> Unless you somehow lose intelligence and execution ability when you get married and have kids, the structure doesn't make sense to me.

You lose a lot of time, time that would otherwise be spent working on your startup. Time that is important when you are trying to cram as much as possible into a 10 week timeframe.