Re:Hugo Chávez, Venezuela’s Leader, Dies at 58
by hmottestad on Tuesday March 05, 2013 @06:03PM
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For the poor, this might be bad news.
For my venezuelan friend who's passport was taken by the embassy for "inspection" until the elections were done. This heralds the possibility of a better democracy.
And I sure hope their oil doesn't mysteriously belong to the US in a month or two.
Re:Hugo Chávez, Venezuela’s Leader, Dies at 58
by ipince on Tuesday March 05, 2013 @06:41PM
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Well, I'm not currently living in Venezuela, but throughout my network I see much rejoicing. It is not an accurate representation of Venezuela though.
A sample statement (not mine) to show how much of an effect he's had:
"
As it turns out, I'm not happy on this day of Chavez's -official- death. The things he managed to do to our society, the way his every whim ruled and stepped over all of our lives, what his deranged followers turned him into, how he made it ok to hate and dehumanize his opponents, what he did to specific individuals who opposed him, the lives ruined by unbounded crime and social decay ...all that, my friends, earns him a word that I have associated with him for a long time, in a way that almost makes it hard for me type: a monster. Something to be feared, a force so strong you must run away from to keep out of its path of destruction.
So I cannot manage to be happy. Trying to be happy requires forgetting for a second of the nefarious crimes and wounds he inflicted on Venezuela that will far outlive his physical presence.
The apprehension of how his wicked legacy will haunt us for generations drowns all else. No room for happy.
"
Re:Hugo Chávez, Venezuela’s Leader, Dies at 58
by RobAtticus on Tuesday March 05, 2013 @06:30PM
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I mean, I hate to jump right to it, but was Hitler's death not good news? Surely there are people whose negative impact on humanity outweighs their positive impact.
(I'm not taking a stand on Chavez specifically, I just disagree with the absoluteness of your statement.)
Re:Hugo Chávez, Venezuela’s Leader, Dies at 58
by joseflavio on Tuesday March 05, 2013 @06:42PM
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Honestly I don't know if it was good news. But I think it is somehow disgusting to celebrate someones death... I think that Hitler believed it was a better world with less of the kind of people he didnt like.
I think that if you don't like/agree with someones political views you should not celebrate someones death... I am sure that this person had a family or friends and so, they had real people that suffered with their death... just this.
Re:Hugo Chávez, Venezuela’s Leader, Dies at 58
by joseflavio on Tuesday March 05, 2013 @06:31PM
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It is scary that people down vote this comment. It is very sad to realize that people think they are the right person to evaluate if someone is bad or if it is good. This kind of of black or white thinking is something I didn't expect here on HN. I would really recommend some people to read some Fyodor Dostoyevsky novels... before getting into politics here.
Re:Hugo Chávez, Venezuela’s Leader, Dies at 58
by atsaloli on Tuesday March 05, 2013 @06:26PM
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Stalin was having dinner with the party elite one night. Suddenly he clutches his chest, grunts, and collapses on the table. Everybody is quiet. A minute goes by. One of the men then yells out, "Yes! He is dead!" Stalin slowly gets up from the table, points at the man and says, "No, comrade, but YOU ARE."
For my venezuelan friend who's passport was taken by the embassy for "inspection" until the elections were done. This heralds the possibility of a better democracy.
And I sure hope their oil doesn't mysteriously belong to the US in a month or two.
How are people viewing this news in Venezuela?
A sample statement (not mine) to show how much of an effect he's had:
" As it turns out, I'm not happy on this day of Chavez's -official- death. The things he managed to do to our society, the way his every whim ruled and stepped over all of our lives, what his deranged followers turned him into, how he made it ok to hate and dehumanize his opponents, what he did to specific individuals who opposed him, the lives ruined by unbounded crime and social decay ...all that, my friends, earns him a word that I have associated with him for a long time, in a way that almost makes it hard for me type: a monster. Something to be feared, a force so strong you must run away from to keep out of its path of destruction.
So I cannot manage to be happy. Trying to be happy requires forgetting for a second of the nefarious crimes and wounds he inflicted on Venezuela that will far outlive his physical presence.
The apprehension of how his wicked legacy will haunt us for generations drowns all else. No room for happy. "
edit: it doesn't mean I liked or supported him at all.
(I'm not taking a stand on Chavez specifically, I just disagree with the absoluteness of your statement.)
I think that if you don't like/agree with someones political views you should not celebrate someones death... I am sure that this person had a family or friends and so, they had real people that suffered with their death... just this.
A negative times a negative makes a positive.
An evil person dying is a good thing.
The only thing worth debate is if the person is evil or not.
I would sincerely recommend: Humiliated and Insulted, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humiliated_and_Insulted