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Re:Ask HN: How to find help marketing an MVP to programmers? by ig1 on Thursday February 28, 2013 @08:33AM (#5298551)
I wouldn't at your stage, at such an early stage the founders need to be interacting with users, you'll lose too much (information) in communication overheads if you bring in someone to do it.
Re:Ask HN: How to find help marketing an MVP to programmers? by orangethirty on Thursday February 28, 2013 @08:47AM (#5298591)
That's just bad business advice. You need to market right from the start. Having a dedicated person to do it is actually more productive than the founders themselves doing it.
Re:Ask HN: How to find help marketing an MVP to programmers? by route3 on Thursday February 28, 2013 @09:28AM (#5298748)
>> That's just bad business advice.

I'm no MBA or startup guru, but I don't often hear "Founders in very early stage/prototype stage should avoid interacting with their users". Early stage interaction is critical to the success of the product.

>> Having a dedicated person to do it is actually more productive than the founders themselves doing it

If the goal is to get to know their audience needs, and iterate the produce development quickly, then dev-to-dev feedback is absolutely critical. Now is probably not a good time to clog the feedback filter by adding another human to the mix.

You can spend 30 hours working on your product backlog of features that haven't been vetted, or you can spend 30 hours getting to know your audience and discover that NSCoreLibFoo gives people the most trouble with push notifications.

What would convert more: a homepage hero about the three new features you dreamed up OR the fact that PushLayer can fix everything that sucks about NSCoreLibFoo (which half of your audience hates with a passion as you discovered).

Re:Ask HN: How to find help marketing an MVP to programmers? by orangethirty on Thursday February 28, 2013 @11:35AM (#5299409)
I did not say founders should not interact with users. What I said was that if possible, a marketing person should be assigned or brought it as soon as possible. Founders have to realize that they don't have to do everything. Letting others do for them is what helps a business grow.
Re:Ask HN: How to find help marketing an MVP to programmers? by ig1 on Thursday February 28, 2013 @09:07AM (#5298660)
If you haven't found product-market fit then what you need isn't marketing, it's product management and that's something that founders need to be heavily involved with at early stages.
Re:Ask HN: How to find help marketing an MVP to programmers? by vetleen on Thursday February 28, 2013 @09:11AM (#5298674)
Don't you think you need users to move towards product-market fit?
Re:Ask HN: How to find help marketing an MVP to programmers? by ig1 on Thursday February 28, 2013 @09:15AM (#5298693)
If you don't have product-market fit it's normally much easier to move the product than it is to move the market.
Re:Ask HN: How to find help marketing an MVP to programmers? by goodwink on Thursday February 28, 2013 @12:47PM (#5299852)
How do you know if you're in this situation or if you simply haven't been able to get the exposure you need?
Re:Ask HN: How to find help marketing an MVP to programmers? by argonaut on Sunday March 03, 2013 @05:38AM (#5313275)
It is not hard to get your product in front of, say, 1000 users. It is not difficult to attend a few meetups of iOS devs and ask them what they think.