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Re:Prosecutors' deal for Swartz: Felony plea and three month... by jacquesm on Monday February 25, 2013 @07:00PM (#5282792)
Choose: spend a million or more defending yourself or go to jail and be labelled a felon.

Damned if you do and damned if you don't, guilt doesn't even enter into it you lose either way.

Re:Prosecutors' deal for Swartz: Felony plea and three month... by mpyne on Monday February 25, 2013 @07:37PM (#5282986)
He could have also chosen not to enter an unlocked server closet...
Re:Prosecutors' deal for Swartz: Felony plea and three month... by enraged_camel on Monday February 25, 2013 @07:52PM (#5283073)
Wow, I cannot believe there are still people who say this shit.
Re:Prosecutors' deal for Swartz: Felony plea and three month... by mpyne on Monday February 25, 2013 @07:53PM (#5283078)
I can't believe there are still people who think that personal responsibility for one's actions don't apply if the politics of those actions are persuasive enough, yet here we are.
Re:Prosecutors' deal for Swartz: Felony plea and three month... by polymatter on Monday February 25, 2013 @08:28PM (#5283246)
The punishment should fit the misdemeanor. Jail time and a felony conviction is an extremely harsh punishment for surreptitiously downloading academic articles. Anyone with a speeding ticket has committed a far graver threat to society.
Re:Prosecutors' deal for Swartz: Felony plea and three month... by tptacek on Monday February 25, 2013 @09:01PM (#5283383)
It is easy to believe both that Swartz's actions were wrong and that the prosecutors actions were wrong. Or even that the prosecutors were more wrong than Swartz. That's what I think.

So the feigned incredulousness of that comment upthread isn't particularly convincing.

Re:Prosecutors' deal for Swartz: Felony plea and three month... by exit on Monday February 25, 2013 @08:27PM (#5283244)
if the deal were

"plead guilty and only have one hand amputated, or spend a million defending yourself with the risk of execution."

would you still waste our time bring up personal responsibility?

because no one's arguing that he wasn't personally responsible for entering the server room. the issue is how unreasonable the offer is considering what he did.

Re:Prosecutors' deal for Swartz: Felony plea and three month... by mpyne on Monday February 25, 2013 @09:14PM (#5283443)
This from the person equating 3 months in a Western prison with having your hand chopped off?

How is any logical, reasoned debate supposed to follow from this? How is having a limb amputated supposed to compare to Aaron's case?

Re:Prosecutors' deal for Swartz: Felony plea and three month... by exit on Monday February 25, 2013 @09:55PM (#5283636)
stop and ask yourself exactly why you think i'm equating anything here.

it's just the first straw-man misinterpretation you could invent to respond in any way, isn't it?

in any case, you've conceded that the reasonableness of the plea deal is the issue here and personal responsibility for entering the server room is irrelevant.

Re:Prosecutors' deal for Swartz: Felony plea and three month... by aeonsky on Monday February 25, 2013 @07:58PM (#5283101)
Agreed.
Re:Prosecutors' deal for Swartz: Felony plea and three month... by tptacek on Monday February 25, 2013 @08:59PM (#5283374)
Say what shit? Swartz shouldn't have been in the networking closet.
Re:Prosecutors' deal for Swartz: Felony plea and three month... by rdouble on Monday February 25, 2013 @09:10PM (#5283426)
Why couldn't he have gotten free legal services from his bud Lawrence Lessig?