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Re:Sexism In Tech: We’re Not Making It Up by stcredzero on Monday February 25, 2013 @01:30PM (#5280649)
> Well, let's get real. How many men think that? I've never seen that in ANY company I have ever worked for. Heck, I haven't even see this kind of thing in the university.

The big disadvantage about being a "hyper-minority" -- that is, a minority to the extent that you stick out almost like a celebrity would, is that you attract a lot of attention. A group of people might be largely composed of good people. However, someone who is a member of a "hyper-minority" is going to attract a far-disproportionate amount of attention from the most unsavory 0.5% of the group.

> It's like taking the example of a rapist (which this guy sort of is) and extrapolating it to some general trend about everyone.

I don't think that's a fair or constructive way to put the issue. Most men aren't rapists. However, a very small number are, and they can do a disproportionate amount of damage. This was even truer in days past, when society was more permissive about certain kinds of behaviors, and less scrupulous about avoiding unwanted approaches.

It's not a matter of spreading the guilt through the group. It is a matter of encouraging responsibility, however.

Re:Sexism In Tech: We’re Not Making It Up by steveklabnik on Monday February 25, 2013 @01:37PM (#5280714)
And even if most men aren't rapists, many enable rapists by, for instance, complaining when people say something as basic as "let's not have instances of rape at tech conferences."
Re:Sexism In Tech: We’re Not Making It Up by stcredzero on Monday February 25, 2013 @02:32PM (#5281150)
A much more succinct way of saying it.
Re:Sexism In Tech: We’re Not Making It Up by nacker on Monday February 25, 2013 @02:48PM (#5281288)
> even if most men aren't rapists

Obviously most, if not all men are rapists. Or potential rapists. Luckily, they are also obsolete!

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/spiegel-interview-...

Re:Sexism In Tech: We’re Not Making It Up by lutusp on Monday February 25, 2013 @03:00PM (#5281358)
> Obviously most, if not all men are rapists.

That's Marilyn French's view, as famously quoted from "The Women's Room":

http://www.amazon.com/Womens-Room-Marilyn-French/dp/03453536...

It's also true that to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

> Luckily, they are also obsolete!

Maybe. I personally will suspend judgment until I see women open their own businesses and banks and refuse to do business with men any more.

Re:Sexism In Tech: We’re Not Making It Up by stcredzero on Monday February 25, 2013 @03:50PM (#5281701)
You're discounting network effects, there.
Re:Sexism In Tech: We’re Not Making It Up by nacker on Monday February 25, 2013 @05:48PM (#5282414)
>> Obviously most, if not all men are rapists. > >That's Marilyn French's view, as famously quoted from "The Women's Room":

Well, technically:

"At one point in the book the character Val says "all men are rapists". This quote has often been incorrectly attributed to Marilyn French herself. " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marilyn_French

There's plenty of crazy around the subject, though: http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/false-rape-culture/l...

> Maybe. I personally will suspend judgment until I see women open their own businesses and banks and refuse to do business with men any more.

That will never happen, as the bubble will pop soon. http://www.singularity2050.com/2010/01/the-misandry-bubble.h...