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Re:Thalmic (YC W13) introduces gesture control without the c... by dxbydt on Monday February 25, 2013 @12:41PM (#5280241)
Just amazing! Hardware startups are beyond sexy. There is something so compelling about tactile devices... no amount of sophisticated software engg can come close to that feeling. Wipro's chairman was once asked why wipro still made soap & shampoos even though wipro was a billion dollar software services shop. He just picked up a bar of soap and said - its just very physical. Software, you can't touch, you can't see...

In the early 90s, there was this thing called a centronics port. You looked behind an old dot matrix printer, you found this large ugly parallel port with 25 pins ( http://bit.ly/YT4xRh ). I asked my professor "how does the printer print ? ". He took my question at face value, hooked up the centronics port to a CRT...soon I realized pins 2-9 would output any goddamn digital signal ! Literally anything I wanted. I wrote a quickbasic program to print square wave, sine wave sawtooth... and those waves started showing up on the CRT. So it got me thinking...if I feed that 8 bit output to an 8-bit TI DAC, I can make an analog function generator! ( http://bit.ly/WmFy8o ) My final version needed a 741 op-amp & a 555 timer, but it actually worked over a wide range of frequencies, and was about one hundredth the price of a real Kenwood function generator! Ofcourse, back in those days, there was no YC or startup culture, & that was the end of that device...:( But just thinking about that one hardware device gives me more pleasure than all the software I wrote after graduating.

Re:Thalmic (YC W13) introduces gesture control without the c... by pierrebouchet on Monday February 25, 2013 @05:14PM (#5282227)
Yes hardware startup are sexy, but most of them are also very software-intensive. Leap Motion needs a lot of processing power, even for a simple visualizer app, and I bet Myo does too.

Other examples: guidance of things like the Sphero or the Parrot AR Drone are very complex. Usually there's a lot of maths involved, which has to be translated into software.

Re:Thalmic (YC W13) introduces gesture control without the c... by namank on Monday February 25, 2013 @08:03PM (#5283125)
I would think they just map muscle contractions to commands for the drones. No math required except to parse contractions.
Re:Thalmic (YC W13) introduces gesture control without the c... by abrichr on Monday February 25, 2013 @08:26PM (#5283236)
Electrical input from the body is extremely noisy. I wouldn't be surprised if they were using machine learning to train their algorithm to recognize which electrical patterns correspond to which muscles being activated.
Re:Thalmic (YC W13) introduces gesture control without the c... by srlake on Monday February 25, 2013 @09:39PM (#5283555)
The math behind this is actually rather complex. Heavy duty machine learning and statistical analysis.
Re:Thalmic (YC W13) introduces gesture control without the c... by namank on Monday February 25, 2013 @11:04PM (#5283870)
Well of course. But that's DSP for parsing the muscle contractions, right?

I would imagine you guys didn't do any application-specific math like guidance of the choppers..? Just curious!

Re:Thalmic (YC W13) introduces gesture control without the c... by morganwilde on Monday February 25, 2013 @01:06PM (#5280417)
Your last sentence does paint a pretty clear picture - get back into hardware building, you said it yourself, we do now have YC and the startup culture.