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Re:LivingSocial: Employees' and Founders' Common Stock Now W... by doktrin on Thursday February 21, 2013 @04:06AM (#5256331)
>1. Take the least amount of stock possible is not a good generally-applicable rule. It might have worked for you in the past, but it sure wouldn't have worked well for any of the employees of Google, Facebook, Dropbox, Weebly, etc.

A more accurate statement would be "...is not a good universally-applicable rule...".

To add some numbers to the discussion, there are currently 203 startups listed on Angel List as hiring for full-time dev roles in the SF Bay Area. How many will exit in such a manner as to yield financial rewards via equity / ownership / deferred compensation?

Note the bar has been set considerably lower than for the companies you listed (e.g. big-name successes), and my sense is that we're still talking about fewer than 50%.

It's quite difficult for new hires to correctly gauge a startups long-term potential. After all, professional investors (who by definition do this for a living) routinely mis-calculate. Given this, it seems fairly sensible for potential hires to err on the side of caution.

Re:LivingSocial: Employees' and Founders' Common Stock Now W... by drusenko on Thursday February 21, 2013 @10:45AM (#5258032)
I would be surprised if even 25% of those startups had a meaningful exit. But even at 25%, we're a very long way from the lottery odds -- that comparison always strikes me as quite misleading.
Re:LivingSocial: Employees' and Founders' Common Stock Now W... by hapless on Thursday February 21, 2013 @01:14PM (#5258977)
As repeatedly mentioned, a "meaningful exit" can make the founders extremely rich, and pay employees the equivalent of a routine annual bonus at a normal firm. ($5k-$25k)

Candidates have no way to evaluate the value of the equity pressed upon them, but even in the case of a successful exit, it's usually quite small.

Re:LivingSocial: Employees' and Founders' Common Stock Now W... by confluence on Thursday February 21, 2013 @01:16PM (#5259000)
Depends on your definition of meaningful exits, actual number of meaningful exits, and dilution between rounds.

Indeed if you put a margin of safety on valuing any arbitrary startup before they get traction - EV does hit on or near zero.