Re:Bill Gates 'not satisfied' with Microsoft's innovations
by dman on Monday February 18, 2013 @06:35PM
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Microsoft invented their own troubles in this market. How many parallel mobility teams can one company reasonably sustain -
a) Windows phone 6.5
b) Windows phone 7.x
c) Windows phone 8.x
d) Project Pink / Kin
e) Danger
f) Windows 8 RT
g) Courier
Re:Bill Gates 'not satisfied' with Microsoft's innovations
by mynameisvlad on Monday February 18, 2013 @07:13PM
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To be fair, those teams were not parallel. 6.5 died with 7, which died with 8. Danger was a subsidiary, and they made Project Pink, so they're the same. Windows on ARM, yes, was a team, but not associated with Mobility. They're a Windows 8 team, not a Windows Phone team, so they're not actually competing with WP nor are they working on mobility-specific platforms. They simply deal with Windows on ARM processors. And finally, we don't know where the Courier team fit into the whole plan, since it was an incubation project.
Therefore, we get:
- Windows Phone
- Windows on ARM
- Danger/Pink
And then some Courier Team, probably a MS Research team (so not part of an actual commercial team) which I wouldn't count as a team.
Then, Danger was folded into Windows Phone, and Courier was killed off, leaving:
- Windows Phone
- Windows on ARM
Re:Bill Gates 'not satisfied' with Microsoft's innovations
by RyJones on Tuesday February 19, 2013 @03:49AM
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PMX wasn't Danger, and PMX did Pink/Kin. Danger was folded into PMX, true, but the history is way messier than you're letting on. Some of the survivors of the PMX fiasco / power grab went on to Courier.
WoA did absorb some parts of WiMo (power management, for example).
The whole thing makes me want to cry in frustration. The day the iPhone was announced, the halls of 116-117-118-119 were filled with shell shocked, demoralized, pissed off people.
Re:Bill Gates 'not satisfied' with Microsoft's innovations
by mynameisvlad on Monday February 25, 2013 @10:39AM
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I was using whatever information is available publicly about the teams. Blame the internet for an oversimplification.
When Widows Mobile Smartphone came out in 2003, it was the most advanced, most open, most app-friendly phone OS. However, there were not substantial improvements for the next 5 years - the product was in fact stillborn. The Windows Phone team was then brought in to bury the corpse, and start afresh, which is what they did. It wasn't their fault that the predecessor has died several years earlier.