There's a third category: guys who like mid-level clothing but don't have time to test the fit of different brands. I gave Bombfell my measurements (not bizarre but outside of what you find at Macy's) and they've sent two shirts and two pairs of pants. The first pair of pants didn't fit, but they took my feedback and sent a much better-fitting pair for no extra cost. I could "defect" and buy the same brands elsewhere, but it would cost more than $69.