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Re:Opera moves to WebKit by kmfrk on Wednesday February 13, 2013 @08:36AM (#5212970)
As someone who has used Opera for over ten years - probably 15 - and still does, Opera has become an awful browser over the last year or so.

Opera used to be superior to other browsers, because it offered a full feature solution - a perfect alternative to Firefox - and it is still the only browser with native tab stacking.

It also used to be the fastest browser for people with an assload of active tabs (hell, the only working browser to that end), and a browser with a decent syncing system. Both of those two are no longer the case; the browser is sluggish as hell - I even have to shut it down now and then, because it hogs so much bandwidth - and the Sync feature is awful (just as it is on Chrome).

There was a time where the link.opera.com website didn't work for something like two or three years(!), and I still can't sync between my Windows desktop and MacBook Air running Mountain lion. A good sync feature is one of the biggest feature that could literally make me switch to just about any web browser. As Chrome's is no better than Opera's - managing the bookmarks locally is an awful experience on Chrome - and porting will be a pain, I am not in a rush to switch.

Opera feels great to use in many ways - it just has so many great shortcuts, and the support for rel="next" on paginated sites is still huge.

Opera keeps innovating and will always do, but it paradoxically keeps ruining its core value proposition in favour of an update schedule that breaks more than it fixes. Don't ask me, just look at community forums where people are sticking with Opera in spite of what it actually is now.

I don't know why it's gotten so bad. Maybe the employees are just tired of working on Opera. It's just such a crying shame for those of us who've used it for for over a decade.

And Chrome still isn't good enough to tide us over.

Re:Opera moves to WebKit by zxw on Wednesday February 13, 2013 @12:35PM (#5214381)
10+ years here too. Recently forced to switch because it's gotten so bad. Maybe if they aren't working the render engine they will have more time to work on performance.
Re:Opera moves to WebKit by 5h on Wednesday February 13, 2013 @12:21PM (#5214298)
Not that I disagree with your post, especially the rel="next" part, but I wonder what the problem with syncing is when using chrome & signed into a google account? ... it does the job well for me over 4 or so devices.
Re:Opera moves to WebKit by kmfrk on Wednesday February 13, 2013 @01:00PM (#5214538)
It switches between not pushing the syncing at all (I never managed to get bookmark sync working on iOS) and garbling my bookmarks in all sorts of folder and file tree permutations.

It's entirely possible that I have lost bookmarks to this, but I wouldn't know from the utter clusterfuck of it all.

Speaking of rel="next", it is an incredibly sad state of affairs that sites such as Daring Fireball can't even be bothered to use it, just because other browsers aren't using what is so obviously a treasure to web browsing. Opera even wanted to use this for swipe left-right navigation on touch-based devices as evidenced in a presentation years old now.

Re:Opera moves to WebKit by prumek on Thursday February 14, 2013 @01:24PM (#5220966)
Sad story. Too bad you hear it every time there's a new version. Apparently Opera has become more awful every single version, from the very first public version back in the 90s.
Re:Opera moves to WebKit by onethree on Wednesday February 13, 2013 @07:20PM (#5216714)
~8 years for me - definitely agree about the sluggishness, but i can't say i've noticed any problems with the sync feature.