Re:A warning to college profs from a high school teacher
by jerf on Tuesday February 12, 2013 @04:18PM
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No, the computer metaphor breaks down; programs are not a dialog between a teacher and a class, nor is there any reasonable way to translate that.
Honestly, think about what you're arguing there; 12 years or more in an environment, one ostensibly teaching critical thinking, but you still don't have enough experience to apply critical thinking to that process itself? If that's the case, why did we bother with the schooling process in the first place if it's so incapable of being applied to the thing you've spent the largest part of your life doing up to that point? That's ridiculous.
Re:A warning to college profs from a high school teacher
by mjmahone17 on Tuesday February 12, 2013 @07:08PM
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What percentage of the people involved in the debate had 12 years of education in public schools with high stakes testing? Unless you're a teacher, or a student who went through that system and have the ability to critically reflect back upon it, then no, you aren't an expert in it. And even for students: we wouldn't say that you should be telling Google how to create new products, simply because you've used their phones and search engine for 10 years.
Re:A warning to college profs from a high school teacher
by run4yourlives on Tuesday February 12, 2013 @03:40PM
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>That would be like saying anyone who has used a computer is a computer professional.
I'm pretty sure one of the major points of successfully building software is "Talk to the customer/user".
Re:A warning to college profs from a high school teacher
by king_jester on Tuesday February 12, 2013 @04:37PM
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True, but we don't ask the customer/user to actually build the software.
> Of all the debates we could possibly be having, playing the "We're professionals" card is least suitable here. We've all been school professionals.
No, we haven't. Having gone to school does not make you a professional. That would be like saying anyone who has used a computer is a computer professional.