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Re:IPhone 3.0 has copy/paste, subscriptions, micropayments, ... by icey on Tuesday March 17, 2009 @03:31PM (#520451)
Well, that's kind of the nice thing about capitalism. If you don't like it, vote (or rather don't vote) with your wallet.
Re:IPhone 3.0 has copy/paste, subscriptions, micropayments, ... by asciilifeform on Tuesday March 17, 2009 @04:22PM (#520531)
This would be true in a market driven by competition between near-equals.

The iPhone does not live in such a market. It has no competition. It is a qualitatively different product from other mobile phones. The cell phone market is divided into two categories: the iPhone, and inferior crud. If Apple were to begin charging $0.05 per "click", you would have to cough up the dough or switch to a vastly inferior product. Therefore, your ability to "vote" with your money is academic in this case.

Re:IPhone 3.0 has copy/paste, subscriptions, micropayments, ... by GHFigs on Tuesday March 17, 2009 @05:23PM (#520646)
You're conflating the third party iPhone application market (which can now use micropayments) with the cell phone market as a whole. That's very odd.
Re:IPhone 3.0 has copy/paste, subscriptions, micropayments, ... by asciilifeform on Tuesday March 17, 2009 @05:29PM (#520653)
Micropayments could easily become a standard, expected part of iPhone use. In that case, there will be no escape.

I suspect that this is the reason why Apple users complain about (even potential!) misfeatures to the extent they do. In the product categories where Apple is a player, from the standpoint of a dedicated Apple user, they have zero competition. All of the supposedly competing products are far below the quality-of-user-experience Apple users are accustomed to. Hence the perception that there is nowhere to run to.

Re:IPhone 3.0 has copy/paste, subscriptions, micropayments, ... by GHFigs on Wednesday March 18, 2009 @02:19PM (#522052)
Micropayments could easily become a standard, expected part of iPhone use.

Given how everything else you've said hinges on this assumption, you'd have done well to explain why you think it is true. Like I said before, you're conflating two markets.

As it depends on all players in a highly competitive market suddenly colluding to degrade the user experience upon which they all depend without anyone realizing that they might stand to make more money by not doing so, I find it hard to believe.

Re:IPhone 3.0 has copy/paste, subscriptions, micropayments, ... by asciilifeform on Wednesday March 18, 2009 @03:54PM (#522217)
> degrade the user experience upon which they all depend... I find it hard to believe.

Try this on for size:

http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2008/11/apple-brings-hdcp-...

Re:IPhone 3.0 has copy/paste, subscriptions, micropayments, ... by GHFigs on Thursday March 19, 2009 @01:47AM (#522919)
That doesn't relate at all to anything I've said, nor does it reinforce your point in the slightest. Your powers of misinterpretation are astounding and I hope that in the future you will refrain from commenting anywhere on anything.
Re:IPhone 3.0 has copy/paste, subscriptions, micropayments, ... by asciilifeform on Thursday March 19, 2009 @09:01AM (#523218)
The linked article shows an instance of Apple unambiguously, deliberately degrading user experience. It is highly relevant to this discussion.
Re:IPhone 3.0 has copy/paste, subscriptions, micropayments, ... by GHFigs on Thursday March 19, 2009 @02:52PM (#523783)
That's not a discussion that any of my posts in this thread have been about.
Re:IPhone 3.0 has copy/paste, subscriptions, micropayments, ... by icey on Tuesday March 17, 2009 @05:05PM (#520616)
Don't you think that a decision to begin charging 5 cents per click would significantly reduce the perceived quality of the iPhone?

I know it may be hard to believe, but we're just talking about cellphones here; I'm sure Apple is aware of the fact that doing something like that would be suicide in a very competitive market.