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Re:The Web Is Becoming Smalltalk by 7rurl on Monday February 11, 2013 @10:16AM (#5201166)
PHP has nothing to do with the browser (i.e. the "platform you download software into"). If you don't like programming in PHP, then pick a different server side language instead. Even JavaScript can mostly be avoided, if you want, by using one of the higher level languages that compiles down to JavaScript.
Re:The Web Is Becoming Smalltalk by kabdib on Monday February 11, 2013 @12:09PM (#5201835)
My objections don't start (or end) with PHP. Browsers are terrible platforms, and the protocols we have to deal with are likewise terrible (ever written an HTTP proxy? Oh boy).
Re:The Web Is Becoming Smalltalk by interarticle on Monday February 18, 2013 @09:04AM (#5238291)
> (ever written an HTTP proxy? Oh boy)

Oh yeah, and it's not fairly hard. After all, it's a well defined, text-based protocol. It's sweet to implement if you're not using C. That is, before you started supporting persistent connections or interacting with the content.

In any case, it's loads better than FTP and SMTP (at least HTTP spelled things completely), and loads easier to use than binary protocols.