Re:Tech Startups Don’t Need the Valley Unless They Need VC
by nostrademons on Monday March 16, 2009 @01:42AM
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...outside the Valley, most people have heard of neither FriendFeed nor Seesmic. ;-)
The big advantage of living outside the valley is that you're closer to real customers - people who don't live and breathe technology 24/7. That can help you or hurt you, depending on your target market. Could something like MySpace, AOL or PlentyOfFish have started inside the Valley, considering that they succeeded by catering to idiots?
Re:Tech Startups Don’t Need the Valley Unless They Need VC
by pg on Monday March 16, 2009 @03:21AM
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There are plenty of nontechnical people in SV too. There are dentists and cooks and policemen here just like everywhere else.
AOL, incidentally, did not cater to idiots initially. Before the web it was something a lot of hackers used.
Re:Tech Startups Don’t Need the Valley Unless They Need VC
by asdflkj on Monday March 16, 2009 @09:06PM
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The problem with catering to idiots is that unless you're an idiot yourself--the particular kind of idiot comprising your target market--you have no idea what your customers want. Also, this approach would probably be too demoralizing to sustain for anyone without the record-label-executive state of mind, which is the opposite of the hacker state of mind.
Re:Tech Startups Don’t Need the Valley Unless They Need VC
by axod on Monday March 16, 2009 @06:42AM
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>> Outside of the valley, something like this isn't possible.
We do have email, IRC, etc etc these days.
Re:Tech Startups Don’t Need the Valley Unless They Need VC
by vaksel on Monday March 16, 2009 @10:35AM
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I was talking more about the fact that it took a few hours from seeing an opportunity, to finalizing the deal. Outside of SV, it would take a few weeks just to arrange a meeting. And chances are the company would end up passing on the partnership because they don't want to trust a fresh startup.
Re:Tech Startups Don’t Need the Valley Unless They Need VC
by neilk on Monday March 16, 2009 @10:46AM
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Agreed, but it's way slower at building trust. Especially compared to the opportunities people have in the valley to socialize outside of some deal-making session.
Re:Tech Startups Don’t Need the Valley Unless They Need VC
by axod on Monday March 16, 2009 @12:14PM
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Not in my experience, the example given was a "link exchange request". These go on all the time over email, and work pretty well.
Perhaps it's just me, but I often prefer dealing with people over email/IRC/etc than face to face for a lot of things.
i.e. I think this story was told at LeWeb.
Seesmic founder lets Friendfeed guys know that their products would work really well together. The Friendfeed guys call back and tell him to drop by to discuss it. Loic hops into his car, drives 10 minutes to the Friendfeed offices, and after an hour or so of meetings, Friendfeed adds Seesmic to their site.
Outside of the valley, something like this isn't possible. The spirit of startups lets companies be a lot more relaxed and open to new possibilities.