Re:Speaking up
by fnordfnordfnord on Tuesday February 05, 2013 @08:34AM
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>Women currently get more college degrees in general today, yet the gender pay gap remains. That's evidence of systemic oppression.
No, that's a correlation of two things.
"Women currently get more college degrees in general today, yet the gender pay gap remains. That's evidence of systemic oppression."
That's just bad maths, sorry. First you have to look at what subjects men and women chose and what average pay is for careers in those subjects. Some people graduate in computer science, other people graduate in "do you want fries with that" liberal arts or whatever.
And if a man's wife has the illegitimate child of another man, even while married to the first man, the first man is financially responsible for the child. Cuckolding blames the male victim.
Men die earlier.
Go volunteer at a homeless shelter - they must be sexist as they are full mostly of men.
Go to a morgue in a place of heavy industry - mostly men.
Go on a cargo ship, spending weeks at sea in less than comfortable conditions. Oil rig, mine, etc
But we have to understand that in those situations it is not oppression. And that is a key point. Men are not oppressed by society when they are discriminated, because by-and-large, men make more money, have more opportunity, stay within their industries longer, are (perhaps due to last point) promoted more often, tend to be selected with a gender bias to speak about their subjects. Women currently get more college degrees in general today, yet the gender pay gap remains. That's evidence of systemic oppression. That's why we can say men at large are not discriminated against.