Massive glacier collapse

Re:Massive glacier collapse by MaysonL on Monday February 04, 2013 @01:57PM (#5166185)

You left out 7 (which encompasses a large part of 5 as well): a well-paid contingent of flacks for the fossil fuel industries. Also, the fact that so far, climate change has been more extreme than most projections.

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Re:Massive glacier collapse by kevinskii on Monday February 04, 2013 @09:24PM (#5168661)

You forgot to mention the well-paid contingent of pro-AGW scientists and bureaucrats whose ability to earn a living largely depends on it being a real and serious issue. There is a natural tendency towards confirmation bias on both sides.

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Re:Massive glacier collapse by run4yourlives on Monday February 04, 2013 @06:54PM (#5168100)

Also, the fact that so far, climate change has been more extreme than most projections.

Actually, warming has not occurred at all in the last 15 years or so. So how "extreme" we've been is a matter of vantage point.

While I'm not in the camp to suggest the last 15 years are anything but a variation in the overall trend, be careful what you use to support dire predictions.

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Re:Massive glacier collapse by gus_massa on Monday February 04, 2013 @08:49PM (#5168544)

I found some graphics that support your point: http://digitaldiatribes.wordpress.com/2012/05/14/overall-had...

In the 1850-2012 graph the temperature is mostly increasing, but not straightly increasing. The interesting part is the flat part at the end. It is expanded in the 1997-2012 graphic. In this period the temperature anomaly is ~.5C, it is even very slightly decreasing, but it's too noisy to take the decrees seriously.

The graphs are based in the HadCrut data: http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/releases/archive/2012/hadcr... compiled by the UK Met Office. I didn't download the data and redraw them, but in that page they have a table of yearly global average temperature of the last ~15 years. The temperature anomaly is ~.5C and the variation of the numbers look similar to the values in the graph.

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Re:Massive glacier collapse by MaysonL on Tuesday February 05, 2013 @03:57AM (#5169805)

Ask yourself this question: if there has been no warming, what ratio would you expect between the number of record high temperatures and the number of record low temperatures, and if substantial warming had occurred, what would the ratio be, and what has actually happened. Then consider animal and plant species, their ranges, and migration patterns and dates. And examine what has happedened in those regards. Have you looked at any of these, or are you merely parroting somebody's propaganda?

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Re:Massive glacier collapse by run4yourlives on Tuesday February 05, 2013 @04:09PM (#5173237)

While I'm not in the camp to suggest the last 15 years are anything but a variation in the overall trend

Please read my comments before you assume my opinion.

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