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Re:Why Did The Media Keep The Recent Peaceful Icelandic Revo... by cynicalkane on Monday February 04, 2013 @09:53AM (#5164324)
There isn't a single piece of substance in what you just said, just a bunch of vague proclamation and accusations about "public brainwashing" by the "MSM". Your post reads exactly like a hand-wavey paranoid conspiracy theorist except you're saying you're not a conspiracy theorist. Maybe you should be a bit more specific instead of this rambling nonsense about how you are enlightened and all the regular people are brainwashed.
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Re:Why Did The Media Keep The Recent Peaceful Icelandic Revo... by readme on Monday February 04, 2013 @10:08AM (#5164434)
Because it's possible, it must be true! Who cares if there's no hard evidence.
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Re:Why Did The Media Keep The Recent Peaceful Icelandic Revo... by illuminate on Monday February 04, 2013 @10:51AM (#5164691)
Besides, the simplest answer is that "the media" is selfish, desperate, and cheap. Original coverage, coverage that requires remote HQs, deep coverage is not a priority and those departments were probably axed ten years ago.
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Re:Why Did The Media Keep The Recent Peaceful Icelandic Revo... by alexqgb on Monday February 04, 2013 @12:48PM (#5165692)
"Selfish, desperate, and cheap."

Yes, exactly. As someone who knows the media world better than he'd like to, I cannot think of a more succinct or generally applicable characterization. You, sir, have nailed it.

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Re:Why Did The Media Keep The Recent Peaceful Icelandic Revo... by illuminate on Monday February 04, 2013 @01:07PM (#5165818)
Thanks for the opinion, I'm well outside of that but would love to find good sources with more signal than noise.
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Re:Why Did The Media Keep The Recent Peaceful Icelandic Revo... by alexqgb on Monday February 04, 2013 @03:47PM (#5167005)
I'd like to stress that this is by no means a fair characterization of all the people who work in media. There are a awful lot who push against this current every day. Some of them (on occasion) win. But it tends to be a fight, and the victories invariably seem like minor miracles.

When they're not winning (which is frequent), and thinking "what the fuck am I doing here?" (also frequent) chances are good that whoever or whatever they're getting snowed by can be fairly described just the way you did.

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Re:Why Did The Media Keep The Recent Peaceful Icelandic Revo... by elemenohpee on Monday February 04, 2013 @11:49AM (#5165150)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_model#Case_examples

Just because you are ignorant of the evidence doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

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Re:Why Did The Media Keep The Recent Peaceful Icelandic Revo... by readme on Monday February 04, 2013 @01:13PM (#5165873)
Same argument can be used to provide plausibility for the existence of the flying spaghetti monster, celestial teapot, and God.
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Re:Why Did The Media Keep The Recent Peaceful Icelandic Revo... by m0th87 on Monday February 04, 2013 @01:43PM (#5166088)
Wait, what? The criticism that the original comment had no meat was fair. But then, when you're linked to concrete examples of the hypothesized Propaganda Model at play, you invoke a generic argument about the FSM? Do you not see how you're making the same weightless arguments by invoking a straw man?
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Re:Why Did The Media Keep The Recent Peaceful Icelandic Revo... by readme on Monday February 04, 2013 @03:52PM (#5167040)
No, I wasn't referring to the "propaganda model" I was referring to his second comment, which btw, does not describe the propaganda model at all.
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Re:Why Did The Media Keep The Recent Peaceful Icelandic Revo... by elemenohpee on Monday February 04, 2013 @01:45PM (#5166101)
I can only assume that you missed the part where I linked to the evidence you said didn't exist?
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Re:Why Did The Media Keep The Recent Peaceful Icelandic Revo... by readme on Monday February 04, 2013 @03:53PM (#5167045)
I never said evidence didn't exist for ALL conspiracies. I said that there was no evidence in the particular article we're discussing.

I know about Iran-Contra, the gulf of tonkin, etc. How about the USS liberty?

Your link was very interesting.

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