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Re:64 GB Surface Pro will only have 23 GB free by nasalgoat on Tuesday January 29, 2013 @04:41PM (#5136505)
Actually, horsepower is rated in SAE net numbers, which includes a full accessory load.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower#SAE_net_power

Re:64 GB Surface Pro will only have 23 GB free by tedunangst on Tuesday January 29, 2013 @04:54PM (#5136600)
Some accessories, not all. And specifically not the transmission. They are not quoting you horsepower at the wheels, which is the number you would actually care most about.
Re:64 GB Surface Pro will only have 23 GB free by LarrySDonald on Tuesday January 29, 2013 @05:12PM (#5136694)
If you're saying we should aspire to be as honest as the car industry, could we perhaps aim a little higher and aim for perhaps as honest as the nutritional supplement industry or the mafia?
Re:64 GB Surface Pro will only have 23 GB free by danudey on Tuesday January 29, 2013 @07:07PM (#5137272)
'This is a natural health product, and by that we mean that we don't want to tell you that the nutritional value of our so-called Vitamin Water is actually no better than drinking a soft drink.'