Re:Google has indexed thousands of publicly accessible HP pr...
by mattkirman on Friday January 25, 2013 @03:35PM
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A few months ago I erroneously port scanned our office HP networked printers (I meant to scan our internal servers but a typo meant I selected the wrong IP range). As soon as nmap encountered the JetDirect ports every single printer spewed out a dozen pages of total gibberish. Put it this way - I bet the owners of the printers you just scanned are slightly puzzled why their printer kicked into life.
More worryingly is that on many unpatched HP printers[1] it is entirely possible to push an unauthorised firmware update through port 9100.[2]
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[1] Enabling OS updates is one thing but I wonder how many businesses actively update their printers to the latest firmware versions?
[2] http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.js...
Re:Google has indexed thousands of publicly accessible HP pr...
by cs702 on Friday January 25, 2013 @04:13PM
(#5117660)
mattkirman: nothing happened to the owners of those printers, because I didn't run nmap with the "--allports" option. As the man page explains, by default nmap doesn't send anything to port 9100 precisely to avoid running into this issue:
--allports (Don't exclude any ports from version detection).
By default, Nmap version detection skips TCP port 9100 because some
printers simply print anything sent to that port, leading to dozens
of pages of HTTP GET requests, binary SSL session requests, etc.
This behavior can be changed by modifying or removing the Exclude
directive in nmap-service-probes, or you can specify --allports to
scan all ports regardless of any Exclude directive.
Re:Google has indexed thousands of publicly accessible HP pr...
by meaty on Friday January 25, 2013 @02:56PM
(#5117304)
The same goes for smart tvs. Most of them you can push stuff to via dnla without a password. Much amusement to be had.
Re:Google has indexed thousands of publicly accessible HP pr...
by josephlord on Friday January 25, 2013 @09:08PM
(#5118911)
I think the Sony TV's offer an onscreen pop-up before accepting commands from unregistered DLNA controllers although maybe that can be faked (and maybe there is a flaw, I've never explored it deeply).
Re:Google has indexed thousands of publicly accessible HP pr...
by nwh on Friday January 25, 2013 @09:28PM
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This is correct, though you could cause a flood of requests that block input from the real user (each has to be dismissed in order).
Re:Google has indexed thousands of publicly accessible HP pr...
by meaty on Saturday January 26, 2013 @04:59AM
(#5119937)
Mine doesn't. Bravia EX series.
Re:Google has indexed thousands of publicly accessible HP pr...
by josephlord on Tuesday January 29, 2013 @03:34PM
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If you want to tell me model numbers I'll have a think about why that may be. Used to work in Prduct Planning for them although didn't have any role specifying this feature I was aware of it.
Re:Google has indexed thousands of publicly accessible HP pr...
by dragonbonheur on Friday January 25, 2013 @06:39PM
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IMO Bruce Schneider should be more careful because lots of routers are very capable general-purpose computers and he's definitely responsible for what goes out of his IP address.
Re:Google has indexed thousands of publicly accessible HP pr...
by stephen_g on Saturday January 26, 2013 @06:24AM
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Just because his WiFi is open doesn't necessarily mean that you'll be able to access his router configuration. And as he says, having an open network means that you have an excuse if someone does use your internet for something illegal...
And it's Schneier.
Bruce Schneier's personal WiFi network at home is fully open, because -- in his own words: "If I configure my computer to be secure regardless of the network it's on, then it simply doesn't matter. And if my computer isn't secure on a public network, securing my own network isn't going to reduce my risk very much."[2]
I'm waiting for the great network printer security apocalypse...
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I ran a quick nmap command (nmap -T4 -A -v -PE [IP address]) on a few of the many printers indexed by Google, and here's a typical result, showing tons of open ports and passwordless login options (I've deleted the hostname and IP address to protect the innocent):
--[1] http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4412714
[2] http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/01/my_open_wirele...