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Re:"I couldn't really learn Erlang, 'cos it didn't exist, so... by ghc on Thursday January 24, 2013 @08:38AM (#5109402)
You are absolutely correct, of course. But he was sharing his personal frustrations with C++, not engaging in the programming equivalent of "slut-shaming" someone for using C++. That's an important distinction that I think has been lost with the HN community. Without criticism, nothing would get better, but if you criticize someone for making something or making a choice, you might just encourage them to stop being a maker. And that's sad for all of us.
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Re:"I couldn't really learn Erlang, 'cos it didn't exist, so... by mattgreenrocks on Thursday January 24, 2013 @08:53AM (#5109475)
I've yet to see anyone who 'slut-shames' based on language produce anything of value.

The wanna-be makers project their own failings more readily.

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Re:"I couldn't really learn Erlang, 'cos it didn't exist, so... by hmsimha on Thursday January 24, 2013 @11:44AM (#5110450)
Either you don't consider linux to be 'anything of value' or you haven't read Linus Torvalds' take on c++ http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/linus
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Re:"I couldn't really learn Erlang, 'cos it didn't exist, so... by lifeisstillgood on Thursday January 24, 2013 @01:22PM (#5111146)
This is amazingly both of the above points

1. A clear and succinct citicism directed at the failings of a language in technical terms

2. Attacking a maker and telling them not to make stuff.

However.

Like Stallman, we take the rough with the smooth with Torvalds. Some people earn it.

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Re:"I couldn't really learn Erlang, 'cos it didn't exist, so... by amcl on Thursday January 24, 2013 @09:00PM (#5113498)
Given Dmitry instigated that incident by attempting himself to "slut-shame" C, I'd say he had that one coming! I think Linus was fed-up there with the nth polite suggestion he re-implement either git or the kernel in C++.
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Re:"I couldn't really learn Erlang, 'cos it didn't exist, so... by lifeisstillgood on Friday January 25, 2013 @12:32PM (#5116571)
There was a "police camera action" footage of a UK nightclub and a man leaping up and slapping the bouncer 6 or 7 times because he was not allowed in - on the eighth leap the bouncer simply punches him once to the ground.

The voice over explains that police had reviewed the footage, and whilst commonly prosecuting bouncers for ABH, this time declined to press charges.

Its probably not at all the same :-)

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Re:"I couldn't really learn Erlang, 'cos it didn't exist, so... by mattgreenrocks on Thursday January 24, 2013 @03:40PM (#5112067)
Finding one edge case doesn't refute the original point. Most /r/programming-esque lingual slut-shaming is by people who seem to be very good at being Right On The Internet, and not much else.

And that's a woefully terrible thing to be good at.

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Re:"I couldn't really learn Erlang, 'cos it didn't exist, so... by inavat on Friday January 25, 2013 @02:10AM (#5114418)
What evidence do you have that a propensity to "slut-shame" isn't distributed evenly between people who are and aren't good at things?
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Re:"I couldn't really learn Erlang, 'cos it didn't exist, so... by mattgreenrocks on Friday January 25, 2013 @08:44AM (#5115314)
Purely anecdotal. I'm just highly suspicious of individuals who feel the need to slut-shame anonymous people on the Internet rather than actually make things.
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Re:"I couldn't really learn Erlang, 'cos it didn't exist, so... by tbatterii on Thursday January 24, 2013 @06:33PM (#5112962)
not being a girl myself, I suspect that a girl who has been "slut shamed" would probably take offense at someone referring to our circle jerks about one's favorite tool(s) to be considered "slut shaming". Lets keep things in perspective here.
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Re:"I couldn't really learn Erlang, 'cos it didn't exist, so... by tbatterii on Friday January 25, 2013 @11:01AM (#5115991)
i hope it was a girl who downvoted me.
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