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Re:Prosecutor as bully by CamperBob2 on Saturday January 12, 2013 @08:43PM (#5049638)
Do you really think either one of these should serve as a model?

(Shrug) bin Laden got shit done. McVeigh did not.

They both ended up exactly where they deserved, but you can't ignore the fact that one of them was an effective political strategist while the other one was nothing but a plain old mass murderer.

Re:Prosecutor as bully by jlgreco on Saturday January 12, 2013 @08:49PM (#5049649)
Wasn't bin Laden's issue the American involvement/support of Israel? I'm not sure you can say he got shit done anymore than McVeigh did.
Re:Prosecutor as bully by CamperBob2 on Saturday January 12, 2013 @08:57PM (#5049663)
Actually, I believe that the biggest bee in bin Laden's bonnet was the Americans' use of Saudi territory for military bases. The story of the US withdrawal ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_withdrawal_from_S... ) reminds me a lot of the resolution of the Cuban missile crisis, where the US quietly agreed to withdraw similar missiles from Turkey and Italy.

To the extent that bin Laden's ultimate goal was to cause severe financial damage to US interests, there's no question but that he succeeded grandly. Sure, 99% of the damage that resulted from 9/11 was self-inflicted by the Bush administration, but the outcome was the same as if bin Laden had destroyed trillions of dollars in US wealth himself.

Re:Prosecutor as bully by jlgreco on Saturday January 12, 2013 @09:13PM (#5049699)
Hmm, fair enough.