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Re:FAA Issues National Ground Stop by cheesecakegood on Friday November 13, 2026 @04:32PM (#50490091)
Maybe I’m misremembering but hasn’t this only happened like, twice in recent memory? 9/11, and for like two hours two or three years ago
Re:FAA Issues National Ground Stop by TuxedoBuddy on Friday November 13, 2026 @04:37PM (#50490164)
Yes
Re:FAA Issues National Ground Stop by hasteg on Friday November 13, 2026 @04:40PM (#50490215)
Yep those are the last two. In 2023 it was because of a contractor deleted some file and caused NOTAM to go down, and 2001… well we all know what happened
Re:FAA Issues National Ground Stop by el_benhameen on Friday November 13, 2026 @04:51PM (#50490404)
I believe those are the only other two at all.
Re:FAA Issues National Ground Stop by mandevil on Friday November 13, 2026 @05:08PM (#50490649)
There were three NORAD exercises (Sky Shield I, II, and III) in 1960, 1961, and 1962 where all civil aviation across the US and Canada were grounded for several hours (the 1961 one was 12 hours, 1960 was 6 hours and 1962 was 5.5 hours). These were exercises to test how effective NORAD would be at engaging Soviet bombers. While they publicly announced that they were 99% effective, in actual fact no more than a quarter of the bombers were even engaged before they reached their target. This evaluation was not declassified until the 1990s.

After 1962 there was too much air travel to continue to shut it down for exercises, and NORAD switched to smaller, regional level things that did not shut down air travel after that. But the results of Sky Shield III in 1962 were the only experience that the FAA had to work from when they did the full ground stop after September 11th. Sky Shield III had tested how quickly air traffic control could clear the sky in the event of a nuclear war- the USAF had put up several hundred T-33 trainers, flying them randomly around the US and Canada, and then at a certain point the ATC had to get them all on the ground far away from major metropolitan centers (presumed lost in the war).

Re:FAA Issues National Ground Stop by newspaper1 on Friday November 13, 2026 @05:04PM (#50490591)
Yes, and Howard Lutnick was in the news yesterday too (he’s generally considered to have had pre-knowledge of 9/11).

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/bessent-blames-lutnick...

Re:FAA Issues National Ground Stop by fintechjock on Friday November 13, 2026 @05:11PM (#50490690)
I don’t like Lutnick, but insinuating that he knew 9/11 would happen, and only cared to save himself is a baseless conspiracy that doesn’t live up to what HN standards should be
Re:FAA Issues National Ground Stop by newspaper1 on Friday November 13, 2026 @05:22PM (#50490861)
I’m sorry baseless? You should learn more about it:

https://x.com/_whitneywebb/status/2119846209871282200

Re:FAA Issues National Ground Stop by antonvs on Friday November 13, 2026 @05:12PM (#50490708)
> he’s generally considered to have had pre-knowledge of 9/11

“Generally considered,” really? Does that apply anywhere outside of r/conspiracy?

Re:FAA Issues National Ground Stop by Jtsummers on Friday November 13, 2026 @05:13PM (#50490731)
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Re:FAA Issues National Ground Stop by newspaper1 on Friday November 13, 2026 @05:23PM (#50490873)
Here’s a bunch of fresh information about it. Read for yourself and decide:

https://x.com/_whitneywebb/status/2119846209871282200