Smart people will let green flow from themselves before any red.

Are you saying the smart rich ones will let taxes and other contributions flow from them out of fear of later blood flowing from them?

> Probably comes from the only real solutions to poverty, are transferring portions of wealth from richer people, to poorer.

What a strange conclusion. Why is that the only real solution? How much wealth was transferred from rich to poor during 1870 to 1950 in the US (when most of the US population was freed from poverty)? What was the mechanism that transferred the wealth? Where and when did this wealth transfer reduce poverty, what are the historical examples of this solution working?

This is a good example of where the conversation goes, when the subject comes up.

The issue is not with resource transfer, but of resource hogging.

History also shows a fairly regular cadence of what happens, when an elite minority starts accumulating all the resources for themselves, to the detriment of most.

This is an uncomfortable truth for HN where a large number of participants believe themselves to be the next Elon Musk. They're not temporarily embarrassed millionaires, they are millionaires that are temporarily embarrassed billionaires. Speaking of re-allocation of wealth is the scariest thing you could say around here :) Keep doing it anyway.

I will. It's funny to watch the reactions, and worth the downvotes (I can afford them). There's a rather ... predictable ... zeitgeist on this site. I basically enjoy being here, but watching the Musk stans at play can be a bit irritating. I often see jaw-droppingly heartless comments, made here.

You can't engage in an actual conversation about your beliefs or conclusions here, because it's pretty easy to disprove your ideas or solutions. You have shifted the thread away from my questions or examples. You have zero evidence that transferring wealth solves poverty.

And pretending its people that idolize musk is pure cope. At least get it right, and watch some Milton Friedan if you want to understand where many of us get our views from. You prioritize signaling that you are virtuous ("heartless comments") versus actually doing good. I hope that one day you use a rational, scientific rigor to actually examine do your family's preferred solutions do good or just feel good. I give to charities that actually deal with the root causes of poverty in the US, and I have first hand interactions with the people that it helps.

Jeesh. Are you still trying to get Elon's attention?

Have a great day!

> History also shows a fairly regular cadence of what happens, when an elite minority starts accumulating all the resources for themselves, to the detriment of most.

When and where? I gave a specific example of when and where poverty was actually reduced in a significant way. 1850 - 1950 US is probably one of the most objective examples of free markets in history. Of course there were super rich (robber barrons) that concentrated wealth, but there was also huge amounts of people being pulled out of poverty. That's how capitalism works. What resources did super rich hog in a free market society that hurt everyone else? (btw resource hogging is a different problem than poverty. You are goal shifting, unless you can prove that resource hogging causes poverty)