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Re:Anthropic IPO by colesantiago on Thursday November 12, 2026 @07:05AM (#50465975)
> Let the enshittification begin

But is there a solution to this though?

How does one stop 'enshittification' of everything exactly?

I'm not talking just about Anthropic.

Re:Anthropic IPO by palata on Thursday November 12, 2026 @07:08AM (#50466016)
One thing Doctorow suggests is to remove anti-circumvention, thus allowing adversarial interoperability.
Re:Anthropic IPO by knollimar on Thursday November 12, 2026 @08:51AM (#50467074)
Is that a principle that is ethical in general?

Like is it ethical to put in my ToS that you get a free api but you can’t use it to make a competing service? I feel this is quite common

Re:Anthropic IPO by tremarley on Thursday November 12, 2026 @07:10AM (#50466036)
Competition Enforcement

Strong privacy laws

Tech unionization

Mandated data portability.

Re:Anthropic IPO by colesantiago on Thursday November 12, 2026 @07:17AM (#50466106)
Has these successfully combatted against enshittification entirely?

Which places has this been successful?

Re:Anthropic IPO by Avicebron on Thursday November 12, 2026 @07:29AM (#50466215)
What are you talking about, these haven't even been tried because the corporate lobbyists know they work..
Re:Anthropic IPO by colesantiago on Thursday November 12, 2026 @08:00AM (#50466501)
I'm just asking for successful examples so we can apply it more broadly to stop companies enshittifying enmasse.

Do you have multiple successful examples of stopping enshittification entirely?

Re:Anthropic IPO by Avicebron on Thursday November 12, 2026 @08:55AM (#50467129)
Ah yes, citizens united, the great conspiracy theory. Yikes, I can at best assume this is a shill account here to FUD for the tasty boots.
Re:Anthropic IPO by colesantiago on Thursday November 12, 2026 @01:20PM (#50471719)
???????????

What is wrong with asking for solutions?

Re:Anthropic IPO by mapontosevenths on Thursday November 12, 2026 @07:25AM (#50466192)
Competition is important, but the way you fix that is by fixing the terms of copyright and patents.

Intellectual property, at it's simplest, is a government mandated monopoly granted to allow for progress in the sciences and "useful arts" (think trades really, not arts and crafts). All monopolies are bad, but it was only to be granted for a limited time so it was fine.

Corrupt politicians ruined the entire trade off though, and now it seems that copyrights and patents last for 100 years plus the life of the universe. During which time no one can really compete fairly.

If we want rapid progress in science, we want short patents. Instead we opted for long patents and a higher stock price. R&D budgets have been shrinking ever since.

Re:Anthropic IPO by marginalia_nu on Thursday November 12, 2026 @08:07AM (#50466572)
The solution is mostly not to go public. Valve is a good example of this.

Do well enough that you don't need outside investors, or if you take on outside investors select them carefully and ensure they don't expect an IPO.

Re:Anthropic IPO by colesantiago on Thursday November 12, 2026 @08:40AM (#50466930)
Valve is a bad example.

For game developers, they are a nearing close to a monopoly with Steam, anything PC and for distribution has to go through them and they take a cut, any other places aren't as effective.

Valve has no real competitors or competition.

Unless Valve faces intense competition to change, enshittification will be inevitable since they know nobody can really challenge them.

This is regardless of self or outside funding or no plans to IPO.

Re:Anthropic IPO by marginalia_nu on Thursday November 12, 2026 @09:00AM (#50467186)
Eh they do have competition, from e.g. Epic and Battle.Net and what have you, it's just that their competition is public and universally worse off for it.

Their competition is beholden to quarterly reports, and can't do the sort of long term investments that would be needed to compete effectively with a company like Valve, which isn't beholden to quarterly reports.

Valve doesn't need to enshittify because they aren't subject to shareholders pressuring them increase the profit. As a private company that's pretty much printing money, they don't need to do anything... which has largely been their entire strategy. What would Gabe even do with even more profits, buy a third and fourth yacht?

Re:Anthropic IPO by colesantiago on Thursday November 12, 2026 @01:30PM (#50471915)
> ...As a private company that's pretty much printing money, they don't need to do anything... which has largely been their entire strategy.

The need to do 'nothing' works if you are a monopoly or have little to no competition.

Epic and Battle.Net are not real competition.