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Re:Emacs in the Age of Magic by pitkali on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @06:12PM (#50460296)
Even if the model was open source, nobody would still know how the generated code works. You wouldn't even really know in want interesting sense of the word why the model produced the output you got.
Re:Emacs in the Age of Magic by opan on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @07:19PM (#50461054)
LLMs are even more proprietary than regular proprietary software, I think you've got it right here. They are destroying the free software movement and it seems like most people don't even realize what's happening.
Re:Emacs in the Age of Magic by noosphr on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @07:28PM (#50461148)
LLMs are a fundamentally different category of thing to software. Developing them is closer to breeding cows than writing code.
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Re:Emacs in the Age of Magic by 0c3ca83 on Thursday November 12, 2026 @10:51AM (#50469396)
Software and slop.
Re:Emacs in the Age of Magic by Gormo on Thursday November 12, 2026 @12:44PM (#50471172)
> You don't program an LLM

For now. But it may well become common practice to construct weights directly, or at least to directly adjust weights in trained models, rather than exlcusively train them from prior datasets.

Re:Emacs in the Age of Magic by 0c3ca83 on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @10:24PM (#50462665)
The damage isn't restricted to software. AI is the intellectual equivalent of asbestos.

Asbestos is an amazing fire retardant. That's why nearly every building built before we knew how cancerous it was contains it.

Re:Emacs in the Age of Magic by bloppe on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @08:30PM (#50461821)
Open source really should mean open training dataset, not merely open weights. There are some truly open source models and you can reproduce their training process if you have the compute. I can't think of a reason why those kinds of models would be incompatible with Stallmanism. Presumably they will get better and more widespread over time, like free software
Re:Emacs in the Age of Magic by JacobKfromIRC on Thursday November 12, 2026 @09:59AM (#50468440)
Here's an example of a model that I believe fits this description: https://huggingface.co/common-pile/comma-v0.1-2t

Actually, this one also excludes nonfree data from the training set; there are probably more capable models that include downloadable nonfree data. I'm not sure if the dataset also needs to be free in order for the model to be considered free.