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Re:How to Be Jason Bourne: Multiple Passports, Swiss Banking... by wallflower on Thursday March 05, 2009 @11:09AM (#504388)
My impression of "The Game" and perusing online forums where average guys who met their goals (usually dating one or two attractive women or beyond) was that those who succeeded in becoming successful at pick-up had accumulated enough experience (approaching, being rejected, follow-up encounters, escalating, taking the lead).

Similar to the old koan about how many businesses a successful entrepreneur most fail at before they succeed, I think after hundreds of encounters - you start to gain the benefits of experience. I've met and talked to a couple of these pick up artists - and they've pretty much told me they can analyze an interaction in real-time at a meta-level and know what they can do (or more likely, what their client should be doing).

There is one downside to all of the pickup techniques - it emphasizes that there is a method to the madness (and encourages subscription-based revenue - e.g. get the latest book/podcast etc.) - while from what I've observed, successful pick up artists could basically walk up to any woman (if they wanted) and say "I like peanut butter." and go from there.

Re:How to Be Jason Bourne: Multiple Passports, Swiss Banking... by eru on Thursday March 05, 2009 @01:13PM (#504550)
Looks like it basically the technique just gives you an excuse for practising? And the practise makes the master?
Re:How to Be Jason Bourne: Multiple Passports, Swiss Banking... by redrobot5050 on Thursday March 05, 2009 @01:25PM (#504571)
Basically yes. To sum a lot of it up, PTAs basically believe that "closing" a girl is a lot like "closing a sale". It is something that can be taught, and that can develop into a sixth sense or instinct.

Aside from "canned acts/memorized responses" they also rely on something called Neurolinguistic programming, which is basically a way of phrasing questions to get a desired answer. Rather than ask "What don't you like about me?", they might ask something along the lines of "What about me intimidates you?" NLP allows the other person think they decided to sleep with you, not the other way around.

If you saw Magnolia (by Paul Thomas Anderson) then you'd recognize that Tom Cruise's character is loosely based off Ross Jefferies, the creator of "Speed Seduction", which was the first pick-up-routine to be based off NLP.

Re:How to Be Jason Bourne: Multiple Passports, Swiss Banking... by qaexl on Thursday March 05, 2009 @01:59PM (#504608)
Yes, it is that "practice makes the master". It is more about social engineering applied in a different context. It is like any other skill. You learn enough about it until you understand the rules, then you practice it even more until you forget about those rules.
Re:How to Be Jason Bourne: Multiple Passports, Swiss Banking... by pageman on Saturday March 07, 2009 @04:10PM (#506773)
if you put in the 10,000 hours :) (alluding to Outliers by Gladwell)