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Re:M John Harrison becomes first science fiction author to w... by A_D_E_P_T on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @05:03AM (#50438162)
Public reviews are not all over the place -- they are remarkably bad.

https://www.amazon.com/End-Everything-M-John-Harrison-ebook/...

Ever since Amazon.com allowed blank feedback alongside proper reviews, there's been inflation in every book's rating, with most books clustering around 4.2 - 4.6 Stars.

These days, a 4.0 on Amazon means that a book is questionable, divisive, or has editorial errors. A 3.8 has serious issues.

I believe this is because Amazon prompts you for a review/rating after you've finished the book -- if you read on a Kindle, you only get the prompt when the book is at 100% complete -- so those who do not finish a book seem not to rate.

I don't think I've ever seen anything with a 3.1-star rating across >100 reviews. This suggests that the book is exceptionally bad -- that people were motivated to leave poor reviews.

By all accounts it's a very vague story...

Re:M John Harrison becomes first science fiction author to w... by bawolff on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @05:28AM (#50438347)
Wow 2.8 stars. Good read ratings are pretty BS, but i'm not sure i've ever seen a book that low.
Re:M John Harrison becomes first science fiction author to w... by teraflop on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @05:56AM (#50438549)
To borrow a phrase from Rick and Morty: "Your boos mean nothing, I've seen what makes you cheer."

That is, I've seen plenty of very high ratings on Goodreads/Amazon for things that (in my opinion) range from mediocre to slop.

That tells me there are lots of raters who use some criteria that, while I'm sure it's reasonable to them, doesn't correlate well with anything I'd recognize as "quality".

Glancing at the actual text of the Goodreads reviews, it seems like most of the bad ones are outright saying that they didn't understand the book, and therefore decided that it's meaningless.

Re:M John Harrison becomes first science fiction author to w... by A_D_E_P_T on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @06:12AM (#50438673)
Okay, but I've never seen a book with such poor public reviews. I'm dead serious about this: I've never seen anything comparable. And I spend a lot of time buying and reading science fiction books. The public disdain for this book is quite remarkable, really.

So there are a lot of boos. And even the book's supporters seem to strain to find meaning in it. The most parsimonious explanation is that it's genuinely incoherent.

Re:M John Harrison becomes first science fiction author to w... by rsynnott on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @10:32AM (#50441807)
I have not found either Amazon or Goodreads reviews to be a particularly good guide. Especially for scifi, actually. Tastes differ, a lot.
Re:M John Harrison becomes first science fiction author to w... by A_D_E_P_T on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @11:05AM (#50442274)
Be that as it may, a score of 3.1 (Amazon) and 2.8 (Goodreads) makes this book an extreme outlier, like -5 SD or something like that.

Check this out: https://emerginginvestigators.org/articles/25-198/pdf

Re:M John Harrison becomes first science fiction author to w... by rsynnott on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @11:34AM (#50442684)
That it's this extreme would honestly make me suspect that it's just pissed off some group of Very Online(tm) people.
Re:M John Harrison becomes first science fiction author to w... by Barrin92 on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @08:35PM (#50448783)
because it's literary fiction. Moby Dick sits at a 3.5 on Goodreads. These sites are unusable for anything that isn't genre fiction. What happens with books like these is that a few hundred people bought it because it was tagged as 'sci-fi' and then got frustrated and gave it a bad review.
Re:M John Harrison becomes first science fiction author to w... by A_D_E_P_T on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @09:41AM (#50454020)
There are multiple versions of Moby Dick on Amazon, and virtually all of them are rated >4 stars. The current top-selling version is at 4.6, which is exceptional for a book with >100 reviews:

> https://www.amazon.com/Moby-Dick-Original-Unabridged-Melvill...

Literary fiction is, in general, fairly reviewed on Amazon. And yet 3.1 star rating is something I don't think I've ever seen before... It certainly denotes mass dissatisfaction.

Re:M John Harrison becomes first science fiction author to w... by angst_ridden on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @02:25PM (#50445007)
Harrison is generally very challenging. A lot of people don't want challenging. That doesn't make it bad.

Just don't read Harrison if you're looking for Heinlein, just as you wouldn't read Delany if you were looking for Asimov, or Le Guin if you were looking for Sanderson.

Re:M John Harrison becomes first science fiction author to w... by A_D_E_P_T on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @02:38PM (#50445217)
This doesn't hold up -- there are lots of challenging books that were well-received by the public, and Harrison's Light and his Viriconium books were also quite well-received. Their review scores -- at around 4 stars -- are perfectly in line with what you'd expect of challenging work. For my part, I read Light and enjoyed it.

The End of Everything has ratings that place it in the bottom 0.1% of all published books with >100 reviews. This very strongly suggests that an absolute majority of readers found it frustrating or incomprehensible, and that among those readers are some who had enjoyed his other works.

Re:M John Harrison becomes first science fiction author to w... by bawolff on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @03:15PM (#50445700)
To me, one of the biggest red flags, is a lot of the positive reviews seem to have trouble articulating what they like about the book and come across very generic. I think most of the positive reviews could be written about any challenging book if you just swap out the book title.
Re:M John Harrison becomes first science fiction author to w... by protocolture on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @03:53AM (#50451109)
>or a book if you were looking for Sanderson.