News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:CoreWeave bond yield tops 16% as AI credit stress rises by holysoles on Monday November 09, 2026 @11:37PM (#50436116)
Aside from the price signal, the fact they were issuing these at a 9.625% coupon rate continues to run up their future debt servicing costs.

Coreweave doesnt seem to be in a winner-take-all sector, they have a narrow moat and will have high ongoing capex. I struggle to see how they dont go under eventually even with the ability to restructure debt

Re:CoreWeave bond yield tops 16% as AI credit stress rises by adventured on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @01:05AM (#50436657)
CoreWeave is the Exodus Communications of this bubble party.

[Sept 2001] https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2001-sep-27-fi-50296...

"Exodus Communications Inc., which never made a profit since it went public in March 1998, filed for bankruptcy protection after losing customers in the collapsing Internet economy."

"Exodus, which runs 44 Internet data centers on four continents, listed $5.98 billion in assets and $4.44 billion in debts in Chapter 11 papers filed Wednesday in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Delaware. The company operates so-called server farms that provide Web site services for businesses."

"The Santa Clara, Calif.-based company’s losses increased more than tenfold in the second quarter, and it fired workers as it failed to win new contracts fast enough to replace those it lost. Exodus counted Yahoo Inc. and AMR Corp.’s American Airlines among its customers."

"Trading in Exodus shares was halted before the markets opened Wednesday. The shares fell 33 cents to 17 cents Tuesday and have plunged 99% from a record $89.81 in March 2000."

"Analysts say Exodus, with eight different junk bond offerings totaling about $3.4 billion, ran up more debt than it could handle."

“We sacrificed profitability in exchange for growth and market share, over-expanding in some areas in advance of demand, not anticipating the decline as the dot-com bubble burst and the economy weakened,” Krause said.

"Exodus’ second-quarter loss grew on acquisition and restructuring costs to $583.4 million, or $1.05 a share, from $51.8 million, or 13 cents, a year earlier. Sales rose 79% to $318.7 million but missed analyst estimates. The company lost $256 million on sales of $818.4 million in 2000."

Re:CoreWeave bond yield tops 16% as AI credit stress rises by throwaway2037 on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @05:36AM (#50438406)
Yeah, that coupon rate is wild! It is more than 450bps more than a similar Oracle bond. The simplest explanation: When this bond was issued, CoreWeave had a speculative/junk grade corporate credit rating: BB-. Surprisingly, Oracle also barely has investment grade credit rating: BBB-.

You can see precise details about the CoreWeave bond issue here: https://bondblox.com/bond-market/Coreweave-Inc-USU2069EAE06

Re:CoreWeave bond yield tops 16% as AI credit stress rises by blitzar on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @07:21AM (#50439305)
Oracle have non Ai revenue ... CoreWeave's non Ai revenue would be in the 10s millions against debt in the 10s of billions.