Re:Unlocking any car from X brand in most of the world
by sandworm101 on Monday November 09, 2026 @08:07AM
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>> the extra mechanics (and their friction loses) to the rear wheels an 'OpEx' that you don't necessarily have to pay
True for a FWD v RWD car decisions, but in an AWD are not the rear differential and driveshaft still turning whenever the rear wheels are turning? Even the clutch packs should still be rotating even if disengaged. The fact that there is no power through them doesn't mean they aren't generating losses.
Re:Unlocking any car from X brand in most of the world
by pge on Monday November 09, 2026 @08:24AM
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It depends. With conventional AWD (like all Subarus), you are correct that there is significant energy loss due to the AWD because there is a drivetrain to the rear wheels, even if it is not delivering power.
Many hybrids, however, have AWD and they work by having a second, small electric motor that powers the rear wheels only when needed. That means no physical drivetrain to the rear wheels, so no energy loss. That's why a hybrid Toyota RAV4 AWD gets about 15% better gas mileage than the smaller and lighter hybrid Subaru Crosstrek AWD.
The disadvantage of the electric motor approach is that it cannot deliver as much power to the rear wheels as a conventional physical AWD drivetrain can. That said, probably only an issue in deep mud or snow.
Re:Unlocking any car from X brand in most of the world
by sandworm101 on Monday November 09, 2026 @08:37AM
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Well, no physical drivetrain to the front half of the car would make a difference. But even with electric motors in the rear there is a drivetrain between the wheel and the motor. If the idle rear electric motors are is still spinning then the total mass of spinning parts might well approach the mass of a Subaru drivetrain. Driveshafts are very light.
It sounds like the savings are more in construction costs than fuel savings.
AIUI, you lose energy because the power/torque has to go through an extra differential, transfer case, etc, before reaching the rear wheels.
Going from the engine through the transmission to the front wheels is already a 'fixed cost', but the extra mechanics (and their friction loses) to the rear wheels an 'OpEx' that you don't necessarily have to pay if you don't need to.