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Re:I will not be using LLMs in my coding by sdiupIGPWEfh on Sunday November 08, 2026 @09:09PM (#50420106)
I kind of love this analogy, actually, because Taylorism and scientific management also had serious downsides for the employees involved. That kind of micromanagement leads directly to burnout and elimination of supposed "wasted movement" in search of repeated optimized motions leads directly to RSI and workplace injury. But if the workers are just replaceable cogs in the machine, who cares? Certainly it boosted productivity.

> If you refuse to use LLMs on the job, you are stealing from your employer. Your boss has every right to fire you, and they'd be right to do so.

So now it's our chance to be abused to improve the bottom line.

Re:I will not be using LLMs in my coding by bitwize on Sunday November 08, 2026 @09:16PM (#50420149)
Before Taylorism, line workers were worked to the bone. Taylor was one of the first to identify that 8-hour workdays and frequent, short breaks actually boosted productivity.

Although one of Taylor's quotes has special resonance in the AI era: "In the past the man has been first; in the future the system must come first."

Programming was a job where the man has long been first. That era is coming to a close.

Re:I will not be using LLMs in my coding by sdiupIGPWEfh on Sunday November 08, 2026 @10:04PM (#50420513)
It's possible I've accidentally swallowed some labor union propaganda during my education, but that's a much too rosy interpretation of Taylorism. Line workers have always been up against pressure to be worked to the bone, before and after Taylor. As you've already pointed out, workers were getting away with soldiering pre-Taylor, and then weren't immediately post-Taylor. I recall something about subsequent labor strikes. The very working conditions he helped impose would have made for the ideal scenario for him to identify just how much a shorter work day and short breaks were needed. But then, at least in the US, we didn't get the Fair Labor Standards Act for nearly three decades later.

Also, Robert Owen had Frederick Taylor beat on the 8 hour workday front by like a century. Maybe Taylorism was, in practice, one of the last straws. Or maybe it was Taylor's scientific support that helped convince the legislature an 8 hour workday was needed. Personally, I have my interpretation based on the evidence, and I don't see it boding well for software engineering as a profession in our immediate future.