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Re:I will not be using LLMs in my coding by bbor on Sunday November 08, 2026 @09:40AM (#50413747)
Which is why none of us have or want job titles with "programmer" in them; even juniors are junior software engineers. As long as a human is needed to design and implement good software, they will be software engineers. The temporal affordances aren't nearly as unique as you imply, either: generated code and unit test results are two good examples of things that "keep going... much like a motorized machine".

That is, unless you treat the agents as if they were people and thus the true engineers, of course. I think that's a fascinating philosophical topic despite ultimately disagreeing, but to say the least it's incredibly controversial to even consider the personhood of agents, much less endorse it.

This is all moot anyway, so apologies if I'm rude or overly dismissive of your comment that I agree with the general thrust of. No point starting fights over deck chairs...

Re:I will not be using LLMs in my coding by ffsm8 on Sunday November 08, 2026 @01:45PM (#50415846)
Eh, the industries went pretty long with the title being programmer? Didn't it only start with faang that things kept getting sillier? Tbf, I wasn't yet in the job market before the dotcom bubble, so maybe it only seems like it to me who started in the 2010s
Re:I will not be using LLMs in my coding by incrudible on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @01:22AM (#50436755)
> Which is why none of us have or want job titles with "programmer" in them; even juniors are junior software engineers.

The title "software engineer" is just a bullshit name that sounds more important - for the same task. Very few programmers work like real-world engineers. There is no licensure or liablity, there is no legal code. If a real-world engineer makes a mistake in a design that causes structural failure, they're on the hook.

We sure added lots of processes and practices to make it seem like we're more diligent about what we're doing, but none of these are empirically verified (or verifiable in practical terms).