Re:Every Mac comes with an (undocumented) family member clas...
by semiquaver on Saturday November 07, 2026 @10:59AM
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This data is not included in iCloud backup. That detail is included in the article.
Re:Every Mac comes with an (undocumented) family member clas...
by sneak on Saturday November 07, 2026 @02:24PM
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> This data is not included in iCloud backup. That detail is included in the article.
The word "backup" does not appear at all in that webpage? Your claim is unsubstantiated. For these features to work, they must be running on iOS as well, for people who don't own a mac. Siri is used more on mobile devices than on desktops, generally.
Re:Every Mac comes with an (undocumented) family member clas...
by shuckles on Saturday November 07, 2026 @10:59AM
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Photos aren’t in iCloud Backup. Have you considered doing the bare minimum to understand the features you complain about?
Re:Every Mac comes with an (undocumented) family member clas...
by sneak on Saturday November 07, 2026 @02:26PM
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They don't need to be; Photos are synced in realtime to Apple without e2ee. Apple already has them, even faster than the nightly backup.
Re:Every Mac comes with an (undocumented) family member clas...
by 1over137 on Saturday November 07, 2026 @11:18AM
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>iCloud Backup, on by default
iCloud is not on by default with macOS. For starters, you have to create an iCloud account!
iCloud Backup, on by default, is not end to end encrypted and uploads almost the entire contents of your device to Apple’s servers every night in a format they can read (effectively unencrypted). This includes your entire message history over SMS and iMessage and all attachments thereto.
It is safe to assume that the data collected and assembled by these daemons is part of the iCloud Backup, which you never have to explicitly enable; it happens when you log in to iCloud on the device, usually within minutes of first powering it on for most people.