Re:AI is dramatically accelerating AI research
by the_other on Saturday November 07, 2026 @05:12AM
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> They just accepted the idea without much thought, which does not equate persuasion.
The first half of your sentence sounds like really swift and effective persuasion, to me.
Re:AI is dramatically accelerating AI research
by coldtea on Saturday November 07, 2026 @09:50AM
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>If you are suggesting Hitler was persuaded that the Jews were evil, I don’t think that’s correct, he grew up in an environment where many people did believe that but they did not need to be persuaded, just like they did not have to be persuaded into their religion, culture etc. They just accepted the idea without much thought, which does not equate persuasion.
That's a bizarre take.
Of course tens fmillions needed to be persuaded, and the Nazis did a lot of propaganda, even calling that openly, false flag operations, and similar things, and of course there was decades of pamphlets, speeches etc before the Nazis even existed. Antisemitism didn't just grow on trees.
Re:AI is dramatically accelerating AI research
by brabel on Sunday November 08, 2026 @03:08AM
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You find it bizarre that people are born into a culture and accept much of it without the need to be persuaded. Have you been to a country with a very different culture than yours? That normally opens our eyes to just how much we take for granted is just cultural, and other people would strongly disagree with even your deepest held belief.
Re:AI is dramatically accelerating AI research
by coldtea on Sunday November 08, 2026 @05:17PM
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SNobody said otherwise, but that's not applicable here.
We're not talking about general customs or viewpoints a people has as part of their culture.
We're talking about a specific political program developed and propagandized in the span of slightly over a decade. Nazism wasn't merely "the general culture" of Germany since always, nor was "kill all Jews".
If you are suggesting Hitler was persuaded that the Jews were evil, I don’t think that’s correct, he grew up in an environment where many people did believe that but they did not need to be persuaded, just like they did not have to be persuaded into their religion, culture etc. They just accepted the idea without much thought, which does not equate persuasion.
If you are saying the Allies were persuaded that Hitler was evil and must die, I think that may be closer to the truth since they knew the cost of invading Germany would be astronomical, potentially costing their own destruction, and they still stopped only when Hitler was taken, dead or alive. Some serious persuasion was needed for that.