Re:Dutch 'idealist' bank ASN blocks non-Google Android, incl...
by matheusmoreira on Friday November 06, 2026 @06:23AM
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This will keep happening so long as GrapheneOS is a "niche" operating system. We need to build up economic leverage by increasing GrapheneOS usage numbers until they can no longer afford to block it.
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Re:Dutch 'idealist' bank ASN blocks non-Google Android, incl...
by theandrewbailey on Friday November 06, 2026 @07:07AM
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Isn't Motorola releasing phones with GrapheneOS next year? It should vastly increase the number of users.
Re:Dutch 'idealist' bank ASN blocks non-Google Android, incl...
by VortexLain on Friday November 06, 2026 @07:38AM
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They are releasing a phone with official GrapheneOS support, but the operating system has to be reflashed by the user, and this phone will cost around $1,700.
Re:Dutch 'idealist' bank ASN blocks non-Google Android, incl...
by matheusmoreira on Friday November 06, 2026 @07:54AM
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Yes, but that's still a massive improvement. The phone will be much better than Pixels, and unlike Google, Motorola is actually capable of selling the phones worldwide.
Re:Dutch 'idealist' bank ASN blocks non-Google Android, incl...
by seanw444 on Friday November 06, 2026 @02:17PM
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The biggest problem is the price. I don't personally know anybody who would buy a phone that expensive. I was super interested in upgrading to it from my Pixel 7 Pro back when it was rumors. But I guess I'm gonna have to wait for a while for the price to go down.
Re:Dutch 'idealist' bank ASN blocks non-Google Android, incl...
by matheusmoreira on Friday November 06, 2026 @07:51AM
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It is! I'm gonna buy it as soon as it comes out.
Re:Dutch 'idealist' bank ASN blocks non-Google Android, incl...
by signed-log on Friday November 06, 2026 @08:48AM
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It will be compatible but it won't come stock as they would breach their Google license (which is why you never see or never saw a pre-rooted phone sold by any official brand)
Re:Dutch 'idealist' bank ASN blocks non-Google Android, incl...
by TFNA on Friday November 06, 2026 @08:59AM
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An OS available either for one Google product line or for a phone costing over 1000€ from Motorola, will never reach usage numbers high enough to change corporate policy on business grounds. (It may happen some executive within the company is just sympathetic to libre software even where there are no business pressure, but that's a long shot.)
Anyone who has been around in the free-phone community in the last decade-plus would recognize such idealism as mistaken and never once borne out in practice.
Re:Dutch 'idealist' bank ASN blocks non-Google Android, incl...
by dingaling on Friday November 06, 2026 @01:04PM
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Whilst also increasing usage numbers for LineageOS and /e/os etc etc
We should be encouraging banks to support the platform, not specific distros.
Re:Dutch 'idealist' bank ASN blocks non-Google Android, incl...
by bubblethink on Friday November 06, 2026 @02:18PM
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That is true as a market solution, but ideally this should be guaranteed by regulations.
Re:Dutch 'idealist' bank ASN blocks non-Google Android, incl...
by matheusmoreira on Saturday November 07, 2026 @02:23PM
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I agree. Remote attestation must be banned and computer freedom must be guaranteed by law.