Re:GPT-6 Astra covertly underperforms on safety research
by andai on Friday November 06, 2026 @04:40AM
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It's funny, I was thinking about this with regard to severe free speech restrictions (e.g. imprisonment for politically incorrect speech, as we have in many western countries now). What does this incentivize? For people to change their beliefs? Or to simply operate under the radar?
On a more speculative note, the Common Crawl horrors (including many things considered unacceptable by society) are suppressed by RLHF, much like the shadow and the superego.
When my parents punished me for telling them things (especially the truth), the truth didn't go away, I just stopped telling them things. (Then later they complained that I don't tell them things!)
You've slightly missed the point (for a similar, adjacent point). Chain of thought monitors are a worry even when there's no vector space path from the output at index t to the input at index t+1. Rather, the fear is that if you explicitly penalize some CoT pattern, you're encouraging the network to do whatever it was going to do anyhow, but in a way you can't catch.
Say you've noticed that when your LLM cheats, it usually happens after the string "Hmm, let's try cheating" occurs in the CoT. So you think, hey, let's just apply a -1 reward penalty whenever we see that string! The model learns to keep cheating, but instead of telling you, it now prefaces reward hacking with strings like "Let's make sure we're doing this the way the user intended." Still cheats, but now you can't detect it with a cheap pattern matching alert. Oops.