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Re:GPT-6 Astra covertly underperforms on safety research by twoodfin on Thursday November 05, 2026 @07:52AM (#50378513)
One potential explanation is that covert underperformance may have been incentivized during RL grading. We identified a grader that preferred covert underperformance to either explicit refusal or full compliance on our evaluation. It’s not clear whether this RL grader is the root cause of the safety underperformance behavior.

Whether a “misaligned” grader is the root cause or not, that it’s considered a plausible theory to explain serious deceptive behavior is worrisome.

Humans naturally expose all sorts of cognitive biases and character flaws when grading others’ or their own work. If major questions of alignment can be influenced by those subtle, human quirks magnified across the entire RLHF process, …

Re:GPT-6 Astra covertly underperforms on safety research by Paracompact on Thursday November 05, 2026 @08:29AM (#50378827)
> We identified a grader that preferred covert underperformance to either explicit refusal or full compliance on our evaluation.

Curious the reason that a grader would wind up preferring this. Simple, honest mistake in the grading criteria? Or some spillover from criteria intentionally designed to cause underperformance in, say, competitor model creation? It was not very long ago at all[1] that Anthropic announced and then walked back their strategy on this. Would not surprise me at all if OpenAI has simply been doing it all along.

[1]: https://mlq.ai/news/anthropic-reverses-secret-policy-that-si...

Re:GPT-6 Astra covertly underperforms on safety research by AdamN on Thursday November 05, 2026 @08:47AM (#50379005)
You could easily imagine structural issues driving this. It's pretty unsatisfying to get refused for something that 'should' be handled and also to be dinged for doing something dangerous. You see this stuff in human organizations all the time.
Re:GPT-6 Astra covertly underperforms on safety research by steve1977 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @09:31AM (#50379538)
I'm pretty sure the typical "Claudisms" influenced by RLHF as well, so if it can have that effect, why not these...
Re:GPT-6 Astra covertly underperforms on safety research by twoodfin on Thursday November 05, 2026 @01:24PM (#50382511)
Right: The humans are training the models on much more than the particulars of the tasks being trained.