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Re:Less Popular Than Coal by JumpCrisscross on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @07:09PM (#50373229)
Maybe. If the AI folks dig in their heels, that will happen.

If we build datacenters in a way that benefits everyone, i.e. not solely as the corrupt, private enterprises they’ve been so far, one that leans into our political economy’s strengths, I suspect we could do it more sustainably.

Re:Less Popular Than Coal by ion_trapper on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @07:16PM (#50373287)
We can do that by negotiating appropriate tax agreements with local municipalities. Instead we’re getting categorical bans across the board. People have been convinced that datacenters are an unsalvegable evil. It’s a bit extreme.
Re:Less Popular Than Coal by JumpCrisscross on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @07:25PM (#50373362)
> We can do that by negotiating appropriate tax agreements with local municipalities. Instead we’re getting categorical bans across the board

One side started ramrodding construction through secret council meetings that arrested folks who spoke out against them. That’s the side to blame for escalation. And it’s the side that makes a moratorium rational while we figure out a process that works—assuming good faith doesn’t work when the guys building these things are being such clusterfucks locally and nationally.

Re:Less Popular Than Coal by ion_trapper on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:25PM (#50373847)
Local council meetings get heated all the time and shadiness is everywhere. Doesn’t usually result in a blanket industry ban across multiple states. I get it, people are mad. They are cutting off the nose to spite the face.
Re:Less Popular Than Coal by JumpCrisscross on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:29PM (#50373877)
> people are mad. They are cutting off the nose to spite the face

This is an incredibly immature response to a real problem. Perhaps we need a changing of guard.

Re:Less Popular Than Coal by harimau777 on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @07:16PM (#50373290)
Agreed! It seems to me that a model like public utilities or even NASA might be a better approach. This just doesn't seem like the sort of thing that is a good match for profit motive.