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Re:US tech giants' hidden AI debt swells 90% to $3.2T in 6 m... by Grombobulous on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @05:34PM (#50359208)
I think the way many of these companies see it is that the downside risk to not investing is that some of their verticals move into irrelevancy.

E.g., if Google doesn’t invest in AI then AI will kill their search engine business. A lot of us don’t love the Google search AI Overview but now they’re competing directly with ChatGPT, and they’re essentially not a search monopoly anymore.

One way to look at a bust AI investment is the destroyed value of the stock like you mentioned, but perhaps that’s somewhat hindsight-biased? Perhaps the reality for some companies is that if they sit on their hands and do nothing they lose 40% of their company value and if they spend a ton of money on AI they lose 20% of their company value. Of course we don’t know the outcome yet.

Re:US tech giants' hidden AI debt swells 90% to $3.2T in 6 m... by jgalt212 on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @07:45PM (#50360227)
> invest in AI then AI will kill their search engine business.

AI has already killed their search biz. No one even clicks on results anymore. How many ads are they clicking on these days?

Re:US tech giants' hidden AI debt swells 90% to $3.2T in 6 m... by Grombobulous on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @07:57AM (#50364922)
And that’s exactly my point. The revenue needs to come from ads interjected into Gemini or premium subscriptions to Gemini. So if Google sat out the AI race they’d be stuck renting from other providers or just ceding their dominant search engine position to the likes of OpenAI.
Re:US tech giants' hidden AI debt swells 90% to $3.2T in 6 m... by jgalt212 on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @09:27AM (#50365987)
> The revenue needs to come from ads interjected into Gemini or premium subscriptions to Gemini.

Fine, but how much revenue can be derived from this? I'd posit not much so long as Google sticks with CPC pricing.

Re:US tech giants' hidden AI debt swells 90% to $3.2T in 6 m... by Grombobulous on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:20AM (#50366854)
I definitely agree that it’s very likely to be a worse business than search has been for the past couple of decades.
Re:US tech giants' hidden AI debt swells 90% to $3.2T in 6 m... by ethbr1 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @09:33AM (#50379567)
I think people who see AI search ads as a worse business than web search ads aren't thinking avariciously enough.

AI results are their own citation- and context-free reality.

If Pepsi pays Google $100M for every statistical +10% they give recommendations of Pepsi over Coke in Gemini... how would anyone ever know?

Google hasn't done that obviously yet, because they have the cash to weather the choppy PR waters around public AI perception, but once AI is normalized it's going to be trivial to turn the knob on managed models.

Especially free ones, served cost efficiently by Google's infra backend, pushed via the most widely used phone OS and browser in the world.

The monetization (and user profiling) opportunities make web tracking and ads look like kids' toys.

Re:US tech giants' hidden AI debt swells 90% to $3.2T in 6 m... by _boffin_ on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:56AM (#50367417)
This is just false. Their search business is still growing, just not as fast as before.

You have a nice slogan, but doesn’t hold up

Re:US tech giants' hidden AI debt swells 90% to $3.2T in 6 m... by Grombobulous on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @04:40PM (#50371953)
That’s still the trend moving in the wrong direction for Google.

We could have made the same statement about landline telephones or cable television in the past.