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Re:US boy names that became girl names and vice versa by gregates on Monday November 02, 2026 @05:37PM (#50345030)
This article misleads by presenting these transitions as from "popular boys name" to "popular girls name", when in fact most of the cases here are from "rare name, sometimes used for boys and sometimes girls" to "suddenly trendy for girls".

To take Ashley as an example. This name suddenly started ramping up in popularity in the 60s. In 1970, there were 927 girls named Ashley in the U.S. It peaked at 54,856 in 1987.

It became notably more popular for boys at roughly the same time! The peak of M Ashley was in 1980, at 746. (Note: it's also very likely that these numbers are wrong. The SSA data also has 56 male Marys in 1980, which is likely the result of coding error.)

Meanwhile, in 1945, solidly in the time period when the article would like you believe that Ashley was solidly a boys name, there were 57 M Ashleys and 10 F. 1950 was 55 M/15 F. Prior to 1960, a "good" year for Ashley was around 100 total babies, with some split of both M and F.

To me, a more honest interpretation of this data is that Ashley was a somewhat unisex, but mostly just very uncommon, name that suddenly became trendy in the 1960s, especially for girls but also for boys.

It did fall in popularity much faster for boys than girls, perhaps as it became to be perceived as feminine due to its popularity for girls. But note that even today, Ashley is still used as a boys name! There were 69 M Ashleys in 2009 and 27 M Ashleys in 2025 (by which point the prevalence of coding error is much lower -- M Mary has fallen out of the data set entirely).

The 2025 F:M ratio of 1829:27 is pretty high, so it's fair to say that Ashley would now read as feminine to many Americans (but note, still less so than Mary). It's much less clear to me that you can conclude from the 1945 M:F ratio of 55:10 that it was once a boys name.

Re:US boy names that became girl names and vice versa by HowTheStoryEnds on Monday November 02, 2026 @05:51PM (#50345179)
1969 even has a single record of a boy called Sue, entered by a Mr. J. Cash.
Re:US boy names that became girl names and vice versa by gregates on Monday November 02, 2026 @05:57PM (#50345248)
I know you're joking but the SSA data omits names given to fewer than 5 babies in a year.
Re:US boy names that became girl names and vice versa by watercast on Monday November 02, 2026 @08:08PM (#50346668)
This sounded dubious to me, for Ashley in particular. In my genealogy research, it is a common name for men in the southern USA in the mid to late 19th century, and names used to be much more regionally bound. So I checked - I'm seeing about 60k Ashleys in the 1870 Tennessee census, out of 1.2 million people. That is about 5%, higher than Ashley ever got nationally as a girl name at its peak later. But over half of those are labeled female! 35k vs. 25k! Not sure about the data quality in my searches (I am not checking the familysearch transcriptions on tens of thousands of census record scans) but well, I was surprised so I thought I would share.
Re:US boy names that became girl names and vice versa by gregates on Monday November 02, 2026 @08:13PM (#50346716)
It is certainly possible that Ashley was once a popular boy name. The point is that, contra the article, there is no evidence for this claim in the SSA data they have based their analysis on.

I think a lot of these cases would be hard to answer definitively just because we don't really have accurate data. And the fact that lots of people will repeat the claim "Ashley used to be a boys name" can be equally well explained by the fact that parents had to say something when their sons asked why they gave them a girl name, and they didn't have the data either.

Re:US boy names that became girl names and vice versa by watercast on Monday November 02, 2026 @08:59PM (#50347025)
My "This" above was vague/ambiguous, sorry. Yes, I only meant, it seemed dubious to me that Ashley wasn't a predominantly boy name, in those times and places where it was actually common prior to the girl peak. (Which was not substantiated by the only data I checked of course.) Your actual substantive points make full sense, cheers.
Re:US boy names that became girl names and vice versa by vl on Monday November 02, 2026 @11:21PM (#50348025)
Also there is a male character named Ashley in Gone with the Wind, which was extremely popular since book release in 1936 and movie in 1939. You would think there should be a lot of boys named Ashley in the 50s and 60s.