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Re:An Italian farmer found some unknown seeds in his attic a... by philwelch on Sunday November 01, 2026 @12:37PM (#50327746)
> But it is processed food, which means it has indeed lost some nutritional value.

This seems like a trivially false assumption.

If processing grains into bread represented a loss of nutritional value, why would every civilization have invested their extraordinarily scarce time and resources into milling and baking instead of just eating the raw grains?

Re:An Italian farmer found some unknown seeds in his attic a... by apothegm on Monday November 02, 2026 @07:07AM (#50335734)
I think there’s a disconnect here between someone talking about what Americans call “white bread” (the highly Wonderbread that reportedly can only be sold as cake in some European states) and someone talking about what Europeans call “white bread”, which is more traditional bread — baguettes are an example, and just one of the many shapes it comes in.
Re:An Italian farmer found some unknown seeds in his attic a... by IAmBroom on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @08:21AM (#50351649)
I rather suspect there is a difference between people using dictionary definitions and hard facts, versus people using "processed" = bad, which is similar to "chemicals" = bad.

We have established a correlation between degradations in health with high-processed food diets. That is a fact, but it really doesn't tell us much. From this, and ideas like "brown bread has more vitamins than white bread", people naively say generalizations like "white bread is unhealthy" and "all processed foods are bad for you".

Re:An Italian farmer found some unknown seeds in his attic a... by thisislife2 on Monday November 02, 2026 @03:02PM (#50342829)
Cooking is processing too, and does indeed cause some nutritional loss. Its benefit however outweighs that (for e.g. cooked food is tastier, we are able to digest cooked faster and better, thereby expending less energy for it), and we also compensate for the loss of nutrition by consuming different food at the same time (having created recipes with different basic food groups, and what is now popular and promoted as the 'balanced diet'). I was however particularly referring more to processing wheat flour to refined white flour, from which white bread is made. These food products are optimised for taste rather than nutritional value. The more you refine it, the more likely you are to strip some nutritions from it. For example, here is how modern refined white flour is made in many parts of the world - https://food.ndtv.com/food-drinks/how-is-maida-made-and-is-i... . That aspect also matters today when you compare it past food habits and food processing - today, we refine many food products more than we used to do in the past. (And apparently, we are now even growing with food with less nutritional values, because we are prioritising and optimising more for how the produce should look - https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/article/fruits-a... !)