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Re:I hate Lisp by cchooper on Tuesday March 03, 2009 @06:53PM (#502249)
Interestingly, almost everyone posting to the Reddit thread got that it was a joke (http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/81s36/i_hate_li...) but most people posting to HN took it seriously.
Re:I hate Lisp by mechanical_fish on Tuesday March 03, 2009 @10:05PM (#502468)
Perhaps the HN users who realized it was a fun tongue-in-cheek parable followed the rules by silently voting it up, instead of filling up the response page with posts that say, in so many words, "HAHAHA L0LZ".

What is there to do with this besides chuckle and move on? I didn't come up with anything. I suppose I could destroy its life by publicly dissecting it. But, in the spirit of the original author, I would prefer to leave the interpretation of the story as an exercise for the student.

Re:I hate Lisp by dkarl on Tuesday March 03, 2009 @07:50PM (#502323)
I think Lispers like to pretend they are soooooooo smart and so baffled by the stupidity of (cough) "normal" people that they don't dare assume any lower bound on human intelligence.

"You eat poop? Really? Ummm. Gosh. Welllllll, that's understandable. I... um... used to eat poop too! Before I learned about food. But if you give me a chance I think I can convince you of the merits of food. Let me tell you about my Road to Food!"

(Yeah, I love Lisp and like HN; I just can't resist poking some fun.)

Re:I hate Lisp by trapper on Tuesday March 03, 2009 @07:23PM (#502296)
Perhaps real hacker's spend less time here [ducks].
Re:I hate Lisp by rbanffy on Wednesday March 04, 2009 @06:08AM (#502771)
HN works flawlessly in w3 under emacs.
Re:I hate Lisp by jonnytran on Tuesday March 03, 2009 @09:55PM (#502458)
Maybe for more people on HN, Lisp is part of their identity, so they get defensive.
Re:I hate Lisp by jrockway on Tuesday March 03, 2009 @11:26PM (#502538)
I haven't noticed this. Most people here seem to be PHP "programmers", which I find hilarious. There is also a large Ruby contingent (whenever someone links their open source project, it's always Ruby.)
Re:I hate Lisp by jimbokun on Wednesday March 04, 2009 @09:45AM (#502927)
Why the quotes around "programmers"? I think Facebook is mostly PHP (or at least was initially?) and I am definitely not going to claim no one working at Facebook is a programmer.

I understand that PHP is an atrocious language (although I haven't tried it myself). But if someone uses it to create a product that people want and satisfies a need, more power to them, right?

Re:I hate Lisp by jrockway on Wednesday March 04, 2009 @10:33AM (#502984)
I'm just saying that the demographic here is more people that think they can get rich off some PHP app than hard-core Lisp hackers. I am not saying that there are no PHP programmers, merely that the PHP-lovers here don't do much programming.

I am being unfair to PHP, though... Java sucks too.

Re:I hate Lisp by jonny_noog on Wednesday March 04, 2009 @12:05AM (#502566)
You could have conveyed the same salient information without the elitist subtext.
Re:I hate Lisp by jrockway on Wednesday March 04, 2009 @09:41AM (#502919)
Probably, but I don't think I should try to hide my biases and personal opinions on social news sites.
Re:I hate Lisp by jonny_noog on Thursday March 05, 2009 @01:22AM (#503990)
To me, there's a difference between having a bias or giving a personal opinion and intentionally insulting a group of people. But to you I guess there isn't.

If you met someone face to face who happened to be a PHP programmer, would you let them know that ostensibly based solely on the language that they happen to be using at the time, you don't consider them a real programmer?

I'm just saying man, it's a slippery slope and one that I actively try to avoid these days.

Re:I hate Lisp by jrockway on Thursday March 05, 2009 @10:02AM (#504288)
If you met someone face to face who happened to be a PHP programmer, would you let them know that ostensibly based solely on the language that they happen to be using at the time, you don't consider them a real programmer?

Sure, why not.

Re:I hate Lisp by jonny_noog on Thursday March 05, 2009 @11:03PM (#505144)
Well, possibly because that's a textbook definition of bigotry right there, and I don't feel that bigotry is something we generally need more of. Even if it is - as I suspect in your case - something of an act.

Happening across some of your other posts, you seem to be a person who likes to make sweeping generalisations in the hope of offending someone. I suspect that you're well aware of what you're doing and are doing it intentionally. So I'll wish you good luck with that and be on my way.

Re:I hate Lisp by k0n2acl on Wednesday March 04, 2009 @09:42AM (#502920)
Without Lisp, I am nothing :)