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Re:Academics have a duty to defend open knowledge systems li... by annzabelle on Tuesday October 20, 2026 @09:06PM (#50174829)
I was able to edit this to fix it, but the geography of New Zealand page had a reference to Southland having a "tundra like climate." Invercargill, which is in Southland, actually has a temperate oceanic climate and a record low of -9C or 15F.

I find wikipedia is really vulnerable to Gell-Mann Amnesia where any article about a topic on which you are very familiar has blatantly incorrect information, but then you open a different one and read it as though it were true. Of course this is true of other sources, famously newspapers, but I think wikipedia is more vulnerable, especially on topics that are very emotionally salient to its power editors.

Re:Academics have a duty to defend open knowledge systems li... by timr on Tuesday October 20, 2026 @09:10PM (#50174854)
If you had to get in a fight to edit that, it really is the height of wikipedianism.

I can totally see how this kind of question would intersect with climate activism though.

Re:Academics have a duty to defend open knowledge systems li... by annzabelle on Tuesday October 20, 2026 @09:16PM (#50174888)
I didn't really have to fight to edit it, but it had been in the article for many years, despite being blatantly false (tundras have mean temperatures below 0 C for 6+ months out of the year, while coastal Southland has a mean temperature of 5 C in July, the coldest month). My best guess is some kid thought that Southland was cold and knew that tundras were cold, and added a sentence to the article comparing Southland to a tundra.

Whenever I catch something like this, I wonder how many things like this are in there that I don't notice. And this one isn't even really touching anything that is controversial.

Re:Academics have a duty to defend open knowledge systems li... by nephihaha on Wednesday October 21, 2026 @07:42AM (#50179270)
It is probably a reference to upland areas of Southland. Some of those do qualify as tundra although most of it is forested.
Re:Academics have a duty to defend open knowledge systems li... by annzabelle on Wednesday October 21, 2026 @06:02PM (#50188291)
It specifically said coastal southland before I edited it, it would've worked to change it from "tundra like climate in coastal southland" to "tundra like climate in apline regions of the south island" instead, you're right.
Re:Academics have a duty to defend open knowledge systems li... by nephihaha on Wednesday October 21, 2026 @07:41AM (#50179262)
I think the Southland reference is to upland areas. Invercargill itself is temperate (but often cold) and has a lot of trees, as does Stewart Island to the south. I've camped in both places.